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  • Pastimes Club of Richmond v Picked nine on 30 July 1867  + (<p>Benefit game for the Masonic Educational Committee Fund. $115 surplus over expenses donated on 19 August.</p>)
  • Everett Club of Hackensack  + (<p>Bergen County Democrat and New Jersey State Register, 7/6/1866</p>)
  • Quickstep Club of Bergen  + (<p>Bergen merged into Jersey City in 1870.</p>)
  • 1856.25  + (<p>Berkshire MA is about 5 miles NE of Pittsfield and about 10 miles E of New York state border. </p> <p>This may have been a wicket match. One wonders why a Friday match would have been held.</p>)
  • 1849.10  + (<p>Beth Hise [email of 3/3/2008] rep<p>Beth Hise [email of 3/3/2008] reports that the wearing of colored ribbons was a much older tradition.</p></br><p><strong>Note:</strong> One may ask if something got lost in the relay of this story to Wisconsin. We know of no wicket in England, and neither wicket or cricket used nine-player teams.</p>et in England, and neither wicket or cricket used nine-player teams.</p>)
  • 1859.73  + (<p>Bill Hicklin, 10/5/20 points out <p>Bill Hicklin, 10/5/20 points out that "Militia regiments in that period, especially in major East Coast cities and in the South, were as much social clubs as anything, organized mostly to hold balls and banquets. Compare the New York volunteer fire companies of the 1840s. A 'Road Trip to New York' would have been right up their alley."</p></br><p>Protoball had asked: Was it common for southern soldiers to travel to the north in 1859? Bruce Allardice: "This was not common. The cost was too great. The Richmond Grays were individually wealthy and could afford it. Drill competition between companies in various cities was common in 1859."</p></br><p>From Bruce Allardice, 10/5/20: "The unit was a famous unit of the Virginia volunteer militia, its members being among Richmond's 'elite.'. Captain Elliott became a Confederate army Lt. Colonel. The unit served in the war as part [Company A] of the 1st Virginia Infantry CSA." Bill Hicklin, 10/5/20, adds that it fought "right through to Appomattox."</p></br><p>Why the soldiers headed to a cemetery? Tom Gilbert pointed out, 10/5-6/20, that Green-wood Cemetery was even then a popular visitor attraction. "Green-wood cemetery in Brooklyn not only welcomed tourists but solicited them. The cemetery was designed with the goal of attracting the public. It imported the grave of Dewitt Clinton for that purpose. All of this predated the famous baseball grave monuments of course."</p></br><p>From Richard Hershberger, 10/4/2020: "Richmond is rich with abortive early connections with baseball. In actual practice, baseball took off in Richmond in the summer of 1866, right on schedule for its location, regardless of prior contact with the game."</p></br><p>Note: When base ball got to Richmond it really swept in: as of October 2020, Protoball shows no clubs prior to 1866, but 24 clubs prior to 1867. Some other Chronology entries touching on early base ball in Richmond include [[1857.36]], [[1861.1]], [[1863.99]], and [[1866.17]].</p></br><p> </p>[[1866.17]].</p> <p> </p>)
  • 1871.20  + (<p>Bill Hicklin, 3/9/2016:</p><p>Bill Hicklin, 3/9/2016:</p></br><p>"It's one of the commonplaces of the old origins debate that led to the Mills Commission that Henry Chadwick was foremost among those arguing that baseball evolved directly from rounders, and indeed he said so many times.  In opposition stood those patriotic Americans such as Ward who claimed an indigenous heritage from the Old Cat games."</p>med an indigenous heritage from the Old Cat games."</p>)
  • Charter Oak Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Keystone Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Liberty Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Lincoln Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Oneida Club of Jersey City2  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Oriental Club of Bergen  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Bachelor Club of Newark  + (<p>Black club</p>)
  • 1861c.3  + (<p>Blair, whose grandfather was Lincoln's Postmaster General, lived in Silver Spring, MD, just outside Washington. Blair was born in 1858 or 1859.</p>)
  • 1809.1  + (<p>Block adds: "Other games besides <p>Block adds: "Other games besides baseball, of course, could have borne the label <em>Ball</em> on that occasion, but none seem obvious.  Cricket, football, trap-ball, stool-ball, golf, and various games in the hockey family ,including bandy, hurling, and shinty, all had a presence in the British Isles in that era, but there is no reason the passing multitude in London that day would have considered any of them a "novelty."   </p>nsidered any of them a "novelty."   </p>)
  • 1850c.12  + (<p>Block notes that the graphic is lifted by the same publisher's 1850 book, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Frank and the Cottage</span>).</p>)
  • 1755.3  + (<p>Block points out that this diary <p>Block points out that this diary entry is (as of 2008) among the first four appearances of the term "base ball," [see #1744.2 and #1748.1 above, and #1755.4 below].  It shows adult and mixed-gender play, and indicates that "at this time, baseball was more of a social phenomenon than a sporting one. . . . played for social entertainment rather than serious entertainment." [Ibid, page 9.]</p></br><p>William Bray is well known as a diarist and local historian in Surrey.  His diary, in manuscript, came to light in England during the 2008 filming of Ms Sam Marchiano's award-winning documentary, "Base Ball Discovered." (As of late 2020, ITunes lists this documentary at https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/base-ball-discovered/id385353782.  Its charge is $10.  Another route is <a href="https://www.mlb.com/video/base-ball-discovered-c7145607">https://www.mlb.com/video/base-ball-discovered-c7145607</a>)</p></br><p>As of 2019 the diary was missing again -- Block tells the sad story in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pastime Lost</span> (U Nebraska Press, 2019), p. 37.</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>p. 37.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1749.2  + (<p>Block points out that this very e<p>Block points out that this very early reference to base-ball indicates that the game was played by adults -- the Prince was 38 years old in 1749, further weakening the view that English base-ball was played mainly by juveniles in its early history.</p></br><p>The location of the game was Walton-on-Thames in Surrey.</p></br><p> Comparing the 1749 game with modern baseball, Block estimates that the bass-ball was likely played on a smaller scale, with a much softer ball, with batted ball propelled the players' hands, not with a bat, and that runners could be put out by being "plugged" (hit with a thrown  ball) between bases.</p></br><p> </p>ith a thrown  ball) between bases.</p> <p> </p>)
  • Havana Base Ball Club  + (<p>Bob Tholkes found an item in the Washington (DC) Evening Star, Sept.10, 1867: "The Havana base ball club challenged and played its first match with the Matanzas club on Sunday last, but with no result. Another game is to come off there to-day."</p>)
  • Matanzas Base Ball Club  + (<p>Bob Tholkes found an item in the Washington (DC) Evening Star, Sept.10, 1867: "The Havana base ball club challenged and played its first match with the Matanzas club on Sunday last, but with no result. Another game is to come off there to-day."</p>)
  • In Alexandria in 1842  + (<p>Bob Tholkes wonders: Is "town ball" the southern name for "base ball?"</p>)
  • 1869.13  + (<p>Bob Tholkes' thorough 2016 paper <p>Bob Tholkes' thorough 2016 paper [cited above] throws welcome light on the nature of elite base ball in period immediately following the Civil War, a period also associated with the rise of "Base Ball Fever" during which local clubs, representing individual companies, affinity groups, etc., formed clubs, some of which playing at sunrise [as early as five o'clock AM], prior to the work day. </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p> day. </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1867.25  + (<p>Bob Tholkes, 5/6/2021:  "<span<p>Bob Tholkes, 5/6/2021:  "<span>Didn't know there was a funeral announcement."</span></p></br><p><span>Richard Hershberger, 5/6/2021: "<span>I don't know of any report of the association meeting or otherwise showing any sign of life after the war."</span></span></p></br><p><span><span>In a 5/9/2021 search, Protoball doesn't find one after 1866 either.</span></span></p></br><p><span><span>Note: Protoball has an 1868 clipping of a throwback game (28 innings, score 24-23) played by Mass rules.  See https://protoball.org/Clipping:The_Mohawk_Club_reverts_to_amateur.</span></span></p></br><p><span> </span></p>3) played by Mass rules.  See https://protoball.org/Clipping:The_Mohawk_Club_reverts_to_amateur.</span></span></p> <p><span> </span></p>)
  • 1860.38  + (<p>Box score provided; it is consistent with the National Association rules. Assuming that "Alleghany" is an alternative spelling for "Allegheny," this game occurred in a town absorbed into Pittsburgh PA in 1907.</p>)
  • Active Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Box scores of the Active Jr. against the Washington Market BBC (undated) can be found in <em>National Chronicle</em>, April 17, 1869 </p>)
  • 1621.1  + (<p>Bradford explained that the issue<p>Bradford explained that the issue was not that ball-playing was sinful, but that playing openly while others worked was not good for morale.</p></br><p><strong>Note:</strong> From scrutinizing early reports of stoolball, Protoball does not find convincing evidence that it was a base-running game by the 1600s.</p>nvincing evidence that it was a base-running game by the 1600s.</p>)
  • 1762.2  + (<p>Brian Turner, 8/31/2014, notes that the wording of this order could be taken to mean that the game itself was seen as a form of cricket, and was not a distinct game. </p>)
  • 1851.10  + (<p>British sailors played rounders on the ice in Melville Bay, Greenland, Aug. 20, 1857. See Lloyd, "The Voyage of the Fox in the Arctic Seas"</p>)
  • Savannah Base Ball Club  + (<p>Bruce Allardice adds this note on<p>Bruce Allardice adds this note on the social makeup of the Savannah BBC [19CBB posting of 2/5/2016]:</p></br><p> </p></br><p>"George G. Kimball was born in 1843 in ME, died 1923, attended Bowdoin (ME) College. Journalist.</p></br><p>William Forrestal May (1845-1920) was born in CT.</p></br><p>“Flanders”–only Flanders in 1870 Savannah a mulatto.</p></br><p>Edwin L. Beard was born in NY c. 1840.</p></br><p>Peter S. Neidlinger (1853-97) a clerk who was born in Savannah of German immigrants.</p></br><p>Peter Schaefer (1841-1902) was born in Germany.</p></br><p>Charles Rossignol (born c 1850) was born in GA, as was William Nungezer Nichols (1852-1930)</p></br><p>Frank Wagner Dasher (1852-88) was born in GA, of NY parents.</p></br><p>From the above, it’s pretty clear that the team was not highly gentrified but was at least half transplants."</p>rents.</p> <p>From the above, it’s pretty clear that the team was not highly gentrified but was at least half transplants."</p>)
  • Clipping:Traditional Easter Ballplaying . . . Where Fast Day Play was Born?  + (<p>Bruce Allardice notes that "town corporation" was a British term for what we would call a city council. </p>)
  • Clipping:An interracial game  + (<p>Brunson, "Black Baseball" says this Albion Club organized in 1868, but presents no cite prior to 1872. [ba]</p>)
  • 1850s.49  + (<p>Buckland is about 45 miles north <p>Buckland is about 45 miles north of Portland.</p></br><p>The ages of players is not clear.</p></br><p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of three uses of "gool" instead of "goal" in ballplaying entries, all in the 1850s and found in western MA and ME.  [To confirm/update, do an enhanced search for "gool".]  One of these [[1850s.33]] uses "gool" as the name of the game.</p>1850s.33]] uses "gool" as the name of the game.</p>)
  • In Buffalo in 1856  + (<p>Buffalo Evening Post, April 4, 1851 ran an ad about a meeting to form a cricket club. </p> <p>Same July 15, 1856 mentions a proposed Albion Cricket Club. Same club as the Amateur?</p>)
  • 1844.18  + (<p>By "plebeian," the writer presumably meant "not upper-class."</p>)
  • 1860.83  + (<p>By 1860, most Massachusetts Rules games were being played to 75 runs, instead of the 100 specified in the rules adopted in 1858. A match for the state championship was abandoned, unfinished, after four days' play.</p>)
  • Hansong YMCA Team Club of Seoul  + (<p>By 1920 there was a Korea baseball championship. See www.projectcobb.org.uk</p>)
  • Lawrence Base Ball Club of Cambridge  + (<p>Cambridge had 26,060 residents in 1860.</p>)
  • 1864.18  + (<p>Camp Sedgwick was in northern VA. FORT Sedgwick was near Petersburg, and not built after the Battle of the Wilderness. [ba]</p>)
  • 1861.19  + (<p>Camp Seminary was located near Fairfax Seminary in Alexandria VA, near Washington DC. </p> <p>One may infer that the 2<sup>nd</sup> NJ remained at winter quarters in Alexandria VA at this time, providing protection to Washington. </p>)
  • Sacramento Base Ball Club v Union Club of Sacramento on 22 February 1860  + (<p>Can we determine Spalding's sources for this account?  Is the game account clear that New York rules were used?</p>)
  • Mechanics Ball Club of Waltham  + (<p>Can we determine if this game was played by Mass game rules?</p>)
  • Red Rover Base Ball Club of San Francisco  + (<p>Can we discover more about this club's foundation, history, and fate? </p>)
  • 1857.30  + (<p>Cannot confirm this source. The rules described appeared in the <em>New York Clipper, </em>October 10, 1857.</p>)
  • 1844.16  + (<p>Canton, NY is about 15 miles SE o<p>Canton, NY is about 15 miles SE of Ogdensburg NY.  Its population in 2000 was a bit over 10,000.</p></br><p>Ogdensburg [1853 population "about 6500"] is about 60 miles [NE] down the St. Lawrence River from Lake Ontario.  It is about 60 miles south of Ottawa, about 120 miles north of Syracuse, and about 125 miles SW (upriver) of Montreal.</p>miles SW (upriver) of Montreal.</p>)
  • Whitney  + (<p>Catcher</p>)
  • Flour City Club of Rochester v Niagara Club of Buffalo on 3 September 1858  + (<p>Caution: Protoball has them playing in Buffalo that day, with a different score.</p>)
  • Bonafon  + (<p>Center Field. Also spelled "Bonaf<p>Center Field. Also spelled "Bonaffon" and "Bonnaffon" in other sources. The Nashville City Directory lists "FV Bonnaffin" as a clerk for the quartermaster at a railroad depot. In 1867, "F.V. Bonnaffon" was stationed under the Nashville quartermaster in Kentucky.</p>der the Nashville quartermaster in Kentucky.</p>)
  • Marion Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Cf Marion Base Ball Club of South Brooklyn. [ba]</p>)
  • 1860.6  + (<p>Chadwick emigrated from western E<p>Chadwick emigrated from western England, and is reported to have been familiar with rounders there.</p></br><p>His claim that American base ball had evolved from English rounders was long refuted by fans of the American game.</p></br><p>In 1871 Chadwick identified Two-Old-Cat as the parent of American base ball.  See [[1871.20]] </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>[1871.20]] </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)