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  • Castrin  + (<p>Also spelled "Castrine"</p>)
  • 1811.1  + (<p>Altherr explains that Kingston Academy is British.</p> <p>This book appears to be a reprint of the 1805 London publication above at [[1805.3]].</p>)
  • Sunrise Club of Paterson v Amateur Club of Paterson on 4 July 1866  + (<p>Amateur Club was formerly the Empire Club</p>)
  • Club of Saltillo  + (<p>American soldiers may have played<p>American soldiers may have played baseball in Saltillo in 1847. O<span>n January 30, 1847, Adolph Engelmann, an Illinois volunteer, reported: “During the past week we had much horse racing and the drill ground was fairly often in use for ball games.” [cited in Our Game blog]</span></p>ames.” [cited in Our Game blog]</span></p>)
  • Excelsior Club of Baltimore  + (<p>An 1866 club called itself the Ex<p>An 1866 club called itself the Excelsior of West Baltimore. Baltimore <em>American</em>, Aug. 10, 1866.</p></br><p>An Excelsior BBC played the Peabody for the city junior championship in 1867. Baltimore <em>American</em>, July 30, 1867.</p></br><p>The Baltimore Daily Exchange, July 13, 1859, reports that in the past week the Excelsior BBC was formed, with W. D. Shurtz as president.</p></br><p>This club may have been preceded in Baltimore by the "Urche" club. See McKenna, "Baltimore Baseball: The Beginning, 1858- 1872"</p> the "Urche" club. See McKenna, "Baltimore Baseball: The Beginning, 1858- 1872"</p>)
  • Wright's Grove  + (<p>An 1868 image fsrom the CHS is in protopix.</p> <p>It was called Timothy Wright's Grove in the 1850s, after the co-owner of the Chicago Tribune.</p>)
  • Alamo Plaza  + (<p>An 1869 game was played at the Arsenal Grounds. See San Antonio Express, Oct. 17, 1965</p>)
  • Williams Hall  + (<p>An 1888 photo of Williams Hall and College Hall is in the MSU archives. See https://onthebanks.msu.edu/Object/162-565-2041/78-williams-hall-and-college-hall-circa-1888/</p>)
  • In New Haven in 1843  + (<p>An Etna Wicket Club of New Haven mentioned in NY Clipper, Nov. 21, 1857</p>)
  • Peabody Club of Baltimore  + (<p>An Excelsior BBC played the Peabody for the city junior championship in 1867. Baltimore <em>American</em>, July 30, 1867.</p>)
  • Irving Club of Williamsburg  + (<p>An Irving Jr. Club is mentioned in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, July 16, 1867</p>)
  • Ivanhoe Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>An Ivanhoe (jr) Club of Bedford (Brooklyn) is mentioned in the New York <em>Dispatch</em>, July 8, 1866</p>)
  • In Indianapolis in 1859  + (<p>An ad for organizing a cricket club in the Indianapolis Star, July 26, 1864</p>)
  • Club of Houston  + (<p>An article in PSOT April 27, 1861 says this club was formed on the 4th.</p>)
  • Union Club of St. Louis  + (<p>An article on early St. Louis bas<p>An article on early St. Louis baseball in "The Sporting News" Nov. 2, 1895 says the Union Club defeated the Empire BBC 15-14 in Dec., 1859, hen lost to the Empire 15-14 on New Years Day, 1860. The two clubs played four times 1860-61, the Union winning two 53-15 and 30-17, and losing two 9-21 and 20-24. [ba]</p>d 30-17, and losing two 9-21 and 20-24. [ba]</p>)
  • Cyclone Club of St. Louis  + (<p>An article on early St. Louis baseball in "The Sporting News" Nov. 2, 1895 says the Cyclones lost an early game to the Morning Star BBC 21-36.</p>)
  • Star Club of Bloomfield  + (<p>An extensive article on the Stars can be found in Samuel Pierson, "Thumbing the Pages of Baseball History in Bloomfield" (1939). They played at "The Green, on a diamond situated just north of Monroe Place." [ba]</p>)
  • 1821.7  + (<p>An interesting aspect of this dra<p>An interesting aspect of this drawing is that there appear to be four defensive players and only two offensive players . . . unless the two seated gentlemen in topcoats have left them on while waiting to bat. One might speculate that the wicketkeepers are permanently on defense and the other pairs alternate between offense and defense when outs are made. Another possibility is that all players rotate after each out, as was later seen in scrub forms of base ball.</p></br><p>Also note the relative lack of open area beyond the wickets.  Perhaps, as in single-wicket cricket, running was permitted only for balls hit forward from the wicket. </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>wicket. </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • Hornie-Holes (also Kittie-Cat)  + (<p>An obscure poem reportedly recite<p>An obscure poem reportedly recited during this game seems to suggest it was played in Scotland.  See Alice Bertha Gomme, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Traditional Games of England, Scotland, and Ireland</span> (London, D. Nutt, 1894), page unspecified. </p>t; (London, D. Nutt, 1894), page unspecified. </p>)
  • 1858.7  + (<p>An oddity: in a July intramural c<p>An oddity: in a July intramural contest, batter Bickham claimed 58 runs of his team's 190 total, while the second most productive batsman mate scored 30, and 5 of his 10 teammates scored fewer than 6 runs each. One wonders what rule, or what typo, would lead to that result.</p>le, or what typo, would lead to that result.</p>)
  • Aipuni  + (<p>Andrews' 1865 "Dictionary pf the <p>Andrews' 1865 "Dictionary pf the Hawaiian Language" p. 279 contains the following:</p></br><p>"Ki-ni-ho-lo. s. kini and holo, to run. the name of a particular game of ball, similar to base ball."</p></br><p>Other sources say the more common name for a ball game is kinipopo. [ba]</p>r sources say the more common name for a ball game is kinipopo. [ba]</p>)
  • 1851.2  + (<p>Angus Macfarlane's research shows<p>Angus Macfarlane's research shows that many New Yorkers were in San Francisco in early 1851, and in fact several formed a "Knickerbocker Association."  Furthermore he discovered that several key members of the eastern Knickerbocker Base Ball Club -- including de Witt, Turk, Cartwright,  Wheaton, Ebbetts, and Tucker -- were in town.  "[I]n various manners and at various times they crossed each other's paths."  Angus suggests that they may have been involved in the 1851 games, so it is possible that they were played by Knickerbocker rules . . .  at a time when in New York most games were still intramural affairs within the one or two base ball clubs playing here.</p>>)
  • 1851.8  + (<p>Another game in Sacramento was covered in April of 1854. John Thorn suggests that "the above 'game of ball' may be inferred to be baseball (I think)."</p>)
  • Soak Ball  + (<p>Anson also mentions: "I longed .... to be playing soak ball, bull pen or two old cat..." during this time (schoolboy days--he was born in 1852 and raised in Marshalltown, IA).</p>)
  • Alert Club of Washington v Unique Club of Chicago in September 1871  + (<p>Any indication as to why the second game report for this African American club cites a score for 8 innings?</p>)
  • Targette  + (<p>Any new evidence on the nature and extent of targette play?</p>)
  • 1855.19  + (<p>Articles published later in the &<p>Articles published later in the <em>New York Clipper,</em> the <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Spirit of the Times</span>,</em> the <em>New-York Daily Times,</em> and the <em>Brooklyn Daily Eagle</em> announced the first appearance in print of 18 new clubs in the Greater NYC region during 1855.</p>> announced the first appearance in print of 18 new clubs in the Greater NYC region during 1855.</p>)
  • 1853.7  + (<p>As a way of teaching nature [each<p>As a way of teaching nature [each chapter introduces several birds, insects, and "wild plants"] this book follows a group of boys and girls of unspecified age [post-pubescent, we guess] through a calendar year. The bass-ball/rounders reference above is one of the few times we run across both terms in a contemporary writing. So, now: Is the author denoting are there two distinct <em>games</em> with different rules, or just two distinct <em>names</em> for the same game?  The syntax here leaves that distinction muddy, as it could be the former answer if the children played bass-ball and rounders separately that [June] day. </p></br><p>Richard's take on the bass-ball/rounders ambiguity: "It is possible that there were two games the party played . . . but the likelier interpretation is that this was one game, with both names given to ensure clarity." David Block [email of 2/27/2008] agrees with Richard. Richard also says "It is possible that as the English dialect moved from "base ball" to "rounders," English society concurrently moved from the game being played primarily played by boys and only sometimes being played by girls. I am not qualified to say."</p>being played by girls. I am not qualified to say."</p>)
  • Rockford Club of Rockford  + (<p>As listed in the Box score of the<p>As listed in the Box score of the Chicago game (Trib, 8-24-70), the Rockford nine consisted of:</p></br><p>Armstrong, Graham, Williams, Winn, Wright, Abraham, Pender, Kingman and Thomas.</p></br><p>Rockford had 83 "colored" residents in 1870, per the census.</p>lt;p>Rockford had 83 "colored" residents in 1870, per the census.</p>)
  • 1828.17  + (<p>As of 2018, we do not know the lo<p>As of 2018, we do not know the location, game type, or rules for this game.</p></br><p>It is interesting that the man identified his position as short stop, perhaps indicating that predecessor baserunning games in New England had already developed skill positions' decades before the Knickerbocker club formed. </p></br><p> </p>efore the Knickerbocker club formed. </p> <p> </p>)
  • In Wellington on 17 November 1888  + (<p>As of 2021, we know of two earlie<p>As of 2021, we know of two earlier game reports of games in NZ.</p></br><p>See [[https://protoball.org/Marton_Base_Ball_Club]]  (1881 game).</p></br><p>See [[https://protoball.org/Hicks-Sawyer_Minstrel_Co._side_1_v_Hicks-Sawyer_Minstrel_Co._side_2_in_November_1888]]  (unsourced 1888 game).</p></br><p>Lyttleton is a nearby port city. </p></br><p>The Hicks-Sawyer "negro" minstrel troupe toured New Zealand and Australia 1888-89. This troupe had its own baseball club, which played numerous games against the local clubs. Cf. Sydney <em>Referee</em>, Aug. 30, 1888; Melbourne <em>Age</em>, <br/>Feb. 23, 1889; Adelaide <em>South Australian Register</em>, April 8, 1889; Broken Hill <em>Barrier Miner</em>, April 20, 22, 1889. [ba]</p>;South Australian Register</em>, April 8, 1889; Broken Hill <em>Barrier Miner</em>, April 20, 22, 1889. [ba]</p>)
  • London Base Ball Club v Club of Delaware Township on 12 September 1856  + (<p>As of April 2021 this game is also listed under "predecessor games."</p> <p>The Delaware is a club of Delaware Township, 10 km west of London,</p>)
  • 1874.2  + (<p>As of February 2017, data on earl<p>As of February 2017, data on early ballplaying in the Chattanooga area are sparse.  They include five accounts of soldierly play during the Civil War and brief mentions of area base ball clubs after the war</p></br><p>Protoball believes "shinny" to be a game resembling field hockey and ice hockey, and not a baserunning game.</p></br><p>Protoball has only two other reports of the game of "baste" in a Princeton student's diary in 1786 and in a biography of Benjamin Harrison on his teenage activities in the Cincinnati area.  A good guess is that baste was a variant spelling of "base," a base ball precursor.</p></br><p>The <em>Cleveland Banner</em> is a newspaper in Cleveland TN.</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>Banner</em> is a newspaper in Cleveland TN.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1840s.31  + (<p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of th<p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of three uses of "gool" instead of "goal" in ballplaying entries, all in the 1850s and found in western MA and ME.  [To confirm/update, do an Enhanced Search for "gool".]  One of these, at [[1850s.33]] uses "gool" as the name of the game.  See also <strong>Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>;Supplemental Text</strong>, below.</p>)
  • 1738.1  + (<p>As of January 2023, this appears to be one of Protoball's ten earliest reports of ballplaying in the  United States, and the third to appear in what is now New York City.  It may be the first know legal action taken against ballplaying.</p>)
  • Bete-Ombro  + (<p>As of January 2023, this is all we know about Bete-ombro.   The second rule, above, would seem to distinguish it from cricket.</p>)
  • 1858.73  + (<p>As of July 2022, Protoball lists over 260 base ball clubs from that era.</p> <p>Bruce Allardice adds, 7/30/2022:  "the [<em>Boston Post's</em>] 25 number seems to come from the number of clubs that attended the 1858 convention."</p>)
  • Bace  + (<p>As of June 2019, Protoball has only 3 references to “base,” one in the 1300s and two in 1805.</p>)
  • 1813.3  + (<p>As of June 2022, Protoball is not aware of accounts of ballplaying in Hawthorne's works.  For a reference to his note on 1862 ballplaying near Alexandria VA, see [[1862.47]]. </p>)
  • 1867.22  + (<p>As of March 2021, this appears to<p>As of March 2021, this appears to be the earliest reference to a right -- in the form of special tickets -- to exclusive seating being bestowed to reporters. </p></br><p>Peter Morris discusses press coverage arrangements in Morris, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">A Game of Inches</span> (Ivan Dee, 2006), section 14.5.3, pp 403 ff.  He cites  two Henry Chadwick sources of press areas in June and August 1867 at the Brooklyn Union Grounds and then the Capitoline and Irvington grounds. </p>then the Capitoline and Irvington grounds. </p>)
  • Magnolia Ball Club of New York  + (<p>As of September 2014, we have no <p>As of September 2014, we have no evidence as to the playing rules this club employed.  Thus, we don't yet know whether the game played resembled the Knickerbocker game, codified in 1845, or not. The depiction of stakes for bases, if accurate, might suggest to some that the game was related to what in 1858 was described as the Massachusetts game -- however, the Mass game then used overhand deliveries to batsmen.   </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>;p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • Slaball  + (<p>As of September 2017, we find no other mention of a game by this name in English-language web searches.</p>)
  • Strike-Out  + (<p>As of Spring 2022, we are seeking<p>As of Spring 2022, we are seeking additional information on local "strike-zone-on-wall" games.</p></br><p>One sees strike zones displayed on school-yard and other walls in many geographical areas.</p></br><p>What names were used for such games in different areas?  Did any involve actual base-running?</p></br><p>Are such games known outside the US?  Did most use standard tennis balls?</p> such games known outside the US?  Did most use standard tennis balls?</p>)
  • 1868.8  + (<p>As of mid 2023, the Protoball Chr<p>As of mid 2023, the Protoball Chronology includes about 40 entries alluding to Rochester NY from 1825 to 1868.  Nearly half have been generously contributed by crack Rochester digger Priscilla Astifan.  Most of the games reported appear to be base ball-like games, but 8 refer to cricket, wicket and trap ball. <span>Ten entries refer to soldierly play during the Civil War.</span></p></br><p>Priscilla reported on 5/18/2023:  <span> "I haven't yet found any notice in the available newspapers of the game being played or not.  But at least the intention was interesting."</span> </p>the intention was interesting."</span> </p>)
  • Eckford Club of Brooklyn v Eckford Club of Brooklyn on 15 April 1862  + (<p>As per the newspaper report, each side featured 10 players and five first nine players, per side.  Sprague pitched for "Wood's Side." </p>)
  • 1830c.30  + (<p>Ashtabula (1850 population: 821 s<p>Ashtabula (1850 population: 821 souls) is about 55 miles NE of Cleveland OH and a few miles from Lake Erie.  The town of Jefferson OH is about 8 miles inland [S] of Ashtabula.</p></br><p>"The <em>Sentinel" </em>is presumably the <em>Ashtabula Sentinel</em>. </p>;is presumably the <em>Ashtabula Sentinel</em>. </p>)
  • Brown Square  + (<p>Astifan, "Baseball in the 19th Ce<p>Astifan, "Baseball in the 19th Century" says Brown Square was the site of Rochester's first match game.</p></br><p>Other early games were played at Jones Square, Franklin Square, and the Babbitt Tract.</p></br><p>The 1860 Rochester map shows Jones Square bounded by Jones Avenue on the south, bounded by Schuyler on the east, about where the modern Jones Square is.</p></br><p>Franklin Square in 1860 was on the east side of the river, bounded by Andrews on the south, Bowery on the north, and bisected by Chatham (north/south running street).</p></br><p>"Mumford's meadow" was the site of a (predecessor?) baseball game c. 1825. See chronologies. The site of this meadow is shown in the linked-to pdf.</p>eball game c. 1825. See chronologies. The site of this meadow is shown in the linked-to pdf.</p>)
  • Gazelles Club of Evanston  + (<p>At a guess, this club played their home games on the campus, what would be known as "Oak Grove" or "University Grove" near the modern-day college library.</p>)
  • In Burma in 1909  + (<p>At a guess, this is the original <p>At a guess, this is the original of the note in Spalding's The National Game about American oil workers playing baseball in Burma. The Spalding phot collection, NYPL, has a photo of what may be this team, said to be employees of the Rangoon Oil Co., in "Yenamgyat, Upper Burmah." This location is probably Yenangyaung. </p>This location is probably Yenangyaung. </p>)
  • In Rochester in 1841  + (<p>At or near Rochester</p>)
  • 1861.25  + (<p>At the time the 40th was stationed at Camp Sedgwick, near Fairfax, VA.</p>)