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  • Liberty Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Lincoln Club of Jersey City  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Oneida Club of Jersey City2  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Oriental Club of Bergen  + (<p>Black Club</p>)
  • Bachelor Club of Newark  + (<p>Black club</p>)
  • 1861c.3  + (<p>Blair, whose grandfather was Lincoln's Postmaster General, lived in Silver Spring, MD, just outside Washington. Blair was born in 1858 or 1859.</p>)
  • 1809.1  + (<p>Block adds: "Other games besides <p>Block adds: "Other games besides baseball, of course, could have borne the label <em>Ball</em> on that occasion, but none seem obvious.  Cricket, football, trap-ball, stool-ball, golf, and various games in the hockey family ,including bandy, hurling, and shinty, all had a presence in the British Isles in that era, but there is no reason the passing multitude in London that day would have considered any of them a "novelty."   </p>nsidered any of them a "novelty."   </p>)
  • 1850c.12  + (<p>Block notes that the graphic is lifted by the same publisher's 1850 book, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Frank and the Cottage</span>).</p>)
  • 1755.3  + (<p>Block points out that this diary <p>Block points out that this diary entry is (as of 2008) among the first four appearances of the term "base ball," [see #1744.2 and #1748.1 above, and #1755.4 below].  It shows adult and mixed-gender play, and indicates that "at this time, baseball was more of a social phenomenon than a sporting one. . . . played for social entertainment rather than serious entertainment." [Ibid, page 9.]</p></br><p>William Bray is well known as a diarist and local historian in Surrey.  His diary, in manuscript, came to light in England during the 2008 filming of Ms Sam Marchiano's award-winning documentary, "Base Ball Discovered." (As of late 2020, ITunes lists this documentary at https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/base-ball-discovered/id385353782.  Its charge is $10.  Another route is <a href="https://www.mlb.com/video/base-ball-discovered-c7145607">https://www.mlb.com/video/base-ball-discovered-c7145607</a>)</p></br><p>As of 2019 the diary was missing again -- Block tells the sad story in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pastime Lost</span> (U Nebraska Press, 2019), p. 37.</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>p. 37.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1749.2  + (<p>Block points out that this very e<p>Block points out that this very early reference to base-ball indicates that the game was played by adults -- the Prince was 38 years old in 1749, further weakening the view that English base-ball was played mainly by juveniles in its early history.</p></br><p>The location of the game was Walton-on-Thames in Surrey.</p></br><p> Comparing the 1749 game with modern baseball, Block estimates that the bass-ball was likely played on a smaller scale, with a much softer ball, with batted ball propelled the players' hands, not with a bat, and that runners could be put out by being "plugged" (hit with a thrown  ball) between bases.</p></br><p> </p>ith a thrown  ball) between bases.</p> <p> </p>)
  • Havana Base Ball Club  + (<p>Bob Tholkes found an item in the Washington (DC) Evening Star, Sept.10, 1867: "The Havana base ball club challenged and played its first match with the Matanzas club on Sunday last, but with no result. Another game is to come off there to-day."</p>)
  • Matanzas Base Ball Club  + (<p>Bob Tholkes found an item in the Washington (DC) Evening Star, Sept.10, 1867: "The Havana base ball club challenged and played its first match with the Matanzas club on Sunday last, but with no result. Another game is to come off there to-day."</p>)
  • In Alexandria in 1842  + (<p>Bob Tholkes wonders: Is "town ball" the southern name for "base ball?"</p>)
  • 1869.13  + (<p>Bob Tholkes' thorough 2016 paper <p>Bob Tholkes' thorough 2016 paper [cited above] throws welcome light on the nature of elite base ball in period immediately following the Civil War, a period also associated with the rise of "Base Ball Fever" during which local clubs, representing individual companies, affinity groups, etc., formed clubs, some of which playing at sunrise [as early as five o'clock AM], prior to the work day. </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p> day. </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1867.25  + (<p>Bob Tholkes, 5/6/2021:  "<span<p>Bob Tholkes, 5/6/2021:  "<span>Didn't know there was a funeral announcement."</span></p></br><p><span>Richard Hershberger, 5/6/2021: "<span>I don't know of any report of the association meeting or otherwise showing any sign of life after the war."</span></span></p></br><p><span><span>In a 5/9/2021 search, Protoball doesn't find one after 1866 either.</span></span></p></br><p><span><span>Note: Protoball has an 1868 clipping of a throwback game (28 innings, score 24-23) played by Mass rules.  See https://protoball.org/Clipping:The_Mohawk_Club_reverts_to_amateur.</span></span></p></br><p><span> </span></p>3) played by Mass rules.  See https://protoball.org/Clipping:The_Mohawk_Club_reverts_to_amateur.</span></span></p> <p><span> </span></p>)
  • 1860.38  + (<p>Box score provided; it is consistent with the National Association rules. Assuming that "Alleghany" is an alternative spelling for "Allegheny," this game occurred in a town absorbed into Pittsburgh PA in 1907.</p>)
  • Charter Oak Club of Jersey City2  + (<p>Box scores confirm this is a white club.</p>)
  • Active Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Box scores of the Active Jr. against the Washington Market BBC (undated) can be found in <em>National Chronicle</em>, April 17, 1869 </p>)
  • 1621.1  + (<p>Bradford explained that the issue<p>Bradford explained that the issue was not that ball-playing was sinful, but that playing openly while others worked was not good for morale.</p></br><p><strong>Note:</strong> From scrutinizing early reports of stoolball, Protoball does not find convincing evidence that it was a base-running game by the 1600s.</p>nvincing evidence that it was a base-running game by the 1600s.</p>)
  • 1762.2  + (<p>Brian Turner, 8/31/2014, notes that the wording of this order could be taken to mean that the game itself was seen as a form of cricket, and was not a distinct game. </p>)
  • 1851.10  + (<p>British sailors played rounders on the ice in Melville Bay, Greenland, Aug. 20, 1857. See Lloyd, "The Voyage of the Fox in the Arctic Seas"</p>)
  • Savannah Base Ball Club  + (<p>Bruce Allardice adds this note on<p>Bruce Allardice adds this note on the social makeup of the Savannah BBC [19CBB posting of 2/5/2016]:</p></br><p> </p></br><p>"George G. Kimball was born in 1843 in ME, died 1923, attended Bowdoin (ME) College. Journalist.</p></br><p>William Forrestal May (1845-1920) was born in CT.</p></br><p>“Flanders”–only Flanders in 1870 Savannah a mulatto.</p></br><p>Edwin L. Beard was born in NY c. 1840.</p></br><p>Peter S. Neidlinger (1853-97) a clerk who was born in Savannah of German immigrants.</p></br><p>Peter Schaefer (1841-1902) was born in Germany.</p></br><p>Charles Rossignol (born c 1850) was born in GA, as was William Nungezer Nichols (1852-1930)</p></br><p>Frank Wagner Dasher (1852-88) was born in GA, of NY parents.</p></br><p>From the above, it’s pretty clear that the team was not highly gentrified but was at least half transplants."</p>rents.</p> <p>From the above, it’s pretty clear that the team was not highly gentrified but was at least half transplants."</p>)
  • Clipping:Traditional Easter Ballplaying . . . Where Fast Day Play was Born?  + (<p>Bruce Allardice notes that "town corporation" was a British term for what we would call a city council. </p>)
  • Clipping:An interracial game  + (<p>Brunson, "Black Baseball" says this Albion Club organized in 1868, but presents no cite prior to 1872. [ba]</p>)
  • 1850s.49  + (<p>Buckland is about 45 miles north <p>Buckland is about 45 miles north of Portland.</p></br><p>The ages of players is not clear.</p></br><p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of three uses of "gool" instead of "goal" in ballplaying entries, all in the 1850s and found in western MA and ME.  [To confirm/update, do an enhanced search for "gool".]  One of these [[1850s.33]] uses "gool" as the name of the game.</p>1850s.33]] uses "gool" as the name of the game.</p>)
  • In Buffalo in 1856  + (<p>Buffalo Evening Post, April 4, 1851 ran an ad about a meeting to form a cricket club. </p> <p>Same July 15, 1856 mentions a proposed Albion Cricket Club. Same club as the Amateur?</p>)
  • 1844.18  + (<p>By "plebeian," the writer presumably meant "not upper-class."</p>)
  • 1860.83  + (<p>By 1860, most Massachusetts Rules games were being played to 75 runs, instead of the 100 specified in the rules adopted in 1858. A match for the state championship was abandoned, unfinished, after four days' play.</p>)
  • Hansong YMCA Team Club of Seoul  + (<p>By 1920 there was a Korea baseball championship. See www.projectcobb.org.uk</p>)
  • Lawrence Base Ball Club of Cambridge  + (<p>Cambridge had 26,060 residents in 1860.</p>)
  • 1864.18  + (<p>Camp Sedgwick was in northern VA. FORT Sedgwick was near Petersburg, and not built after the Battle of the Wilderness. [ba]</p>)
  • 1861.19  + (<p>Camp Seminary was located near Fairfax Seminary in Alexandria VA, near Washington DC. </p> <p>One may infer that the 2<sup>nd</sup> NJ remained at winter quarters in Alexandria VA at this time, providing protection to Washington. </p>)
  • Sacramento Base Ball Club v Union Club of Sacramento on 22 February 1860  + (<p>Can we determine Spalding's sources for this account?  Is the game account clear that New York rules were used?</p>)
  • Mechanics Ball Club of Waltham  + (<p>Can we determine if this game was played by Mass game rules?</p>)
  • Red Rover Base Ball Club of San Francisco  + (<p>Can we discover more about this club's foundation, history, and fate? </p>)
  • 1857.30  + (<p>Cannot confirm this source. The rules described appeared in the <em>New York Clipper, </em>October 10, 1857.</p>)
  • 1844.16  + (<p>Canton, NY is about 15 miles SE o<p>Canton, NY is about 15 miles SE of Ogdensburg NY.  Its population in 2000 was a bit over 10,000.</p></br><p>Ogdensburg [1853 population "about 6500"] is about 60 miles [NE] down the St. Lawrence River from Lake Ontario.  It is about 60 miles south of Ottawa, about 120 miles north of Syracuse, and about 125 miles SW (upriver) of Montreal.</p>miles SW (upriver) of Montreal.</p>)
  • Whitney  + (<p>Catcher</p>)
  • Flour City Club of Rochester v Niagara Club of Buffalo on 3 September 1858  + (<p>Caution: Protoball has them playing in Buffalo that day, with a different score.</p>)
  • Bonafon  + (<p>Center Field. Also spelled "Bonaf<p>Center Field. Also spelled "Bonaffon" and "Bonnaffon" in other sources. The Nashville City Directory lists "FV Bonnaffin" as a clerk for the quartermaster at a railroad depot. In 1867, "F.V. Bonnaffon" was stationed under the Nashville quartermaster in Kentucky.</p>der the Nashville quartermaster in Kentucky.</p>)
  • Marion Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Cf Marion Base Ball Club of South Brooklyn. [ba]</p>)
  • 1860.6  + (<p>Chadwick emigrated from western E<p>Chadwick emigrated from western England, and is reported to have been familiar with rounders there.</p></br><p>His claim that American base ball had evolved from English rounders was long refuted by fans of the American game.</p></br><p>In 1871 Chadwick identified Two-Old-Cat as the parent of American base ball.  See [[1871.20]] </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>[1871.20]] </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • Was Baseball Really Invented in Maine?  + (<p>Chapter 1 deals with baseball in Maine from statehood well into the 20th century and he does tie some of the early stories to newspaper documentation.</p>)
  • When Towns Had Teams  + (<p>Chapters 1 and 2 deal with early Maine baseball.</p>)
  • Chatham Club of Chatham  + (<p>Chatham was known as "Chatham Four Corners" until 1869.</p>)
  • Chicopee Club of Groton v Riverside Base Ball Club of Nashua on 19 June 1869  + (<p>Chicopee of Groton (Senior club)</p> <p>Riverside of Nashua (Junior club)</p>)
  • 1859.6  + (<p>Chris Hauser, in an email on 9/26/2007, estimates that this notice appeared in the <em>New York Anglo-African</em>, and was referenced in Leslie Heaphy's <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Negro League Baseball.</span></p>)
  • 1840.16  + (<p>Chron serial#1840.16 was formerly assigned to stories of Abe Lincoln's ballplaying as a young man; see #[[1830s.16]] for that item.</p>)
  • 1859.19  + (<p>Cilley himself does not attribute the 1859 injuries to plugging.</p>)
  • 1857.17  + (<p>Clark then cites "a well-traveled<p>Clark then cites "a well-traveled myth in the American baseball community . . . that the first baseball played in Australia was by Americans on the gold fields of Ballarat in 1857 . . . . No documentation has ever been produced for a Ballarat gold fields game [also page 5]."</p> a Ballarat gold fields game [also page 5]."</p>)
  • 1823c.9  + (<p>Clay's book, which seems to make no other reference to ball-playing, was accessed 11/15/2008 via a Google Books search for <life of cassius>.</p>)
  • Club of Fox Lake, WI v Club of Courtland on 4 June 1859  + (<p>Club is of Fox Lake, WI not IL</p>)
  • Excelsior Club of Ridgewood  + (<p>Club was formed about 7/1/1865</p>)
  • Riverside Club of Nashua  + (<p>Club was organized October 1867, and reorganized March 11, 1868.</p>)
  • In Apia on 16 October 1917  + (<p>Collins, "Sea-tracks of the Speejacks" (1923) p. 48 has a photo of Americans and Samoans playing baseball in Pago Pago. Pago Pago is in American Samoa.</p>)
  • Keystone Club of Newark  + (<p>Colored - African-American Club, played in 1866, 1867 and 1868</p>)
  • Arlington Club of New Brunswick  + (<p>Colored Club</p>)
  • Hamilton Club of Newark  + (<p>Colored or African-American Club, played matches in 1865 and 1866</p>)
  • Robert Morris BBC of Philadelphia  + (<p>Composed of the members of the Robert Morris Hose Company.  This department was founded on March 14, 1831 and was located on Lombard Street above 8th Street.</p>)
  • 1861.47  + (<p>Contents of the 1860 Beadles publ<p>Contents of the 1860 Beadles publication include:</p></br><p>[] a description of the game of rounders</p></br><p>[] the 1845 Knickerbocker Rules (14 sections on field rules)</p></br><p>[] A listing of 22 clubs formed 1845-1857</p></br><p>[] The 1858 establishment of the NABBP</p></br><p>[] The NABBP Rules of 1860 (38 sections)</p></br><p>[] The 1858 Rules of the Massachusetts Game (21 Sections)</p></br><p>[]Rules for the Formation of a Club</p></br><p>The 1861 edition is reported to include player averages (runs per game)</p>> <p>[]Rules for the Formation of a Club</p> <p>The 1861 edition is reported to include player averages (runs per game)</p>)
  • Clipping:A late example of the Massachusetts game  + (<p>Copied from another posting</p>)
  • 1778.7  + (<p>Corlear's Hook was a noted ship landing place along the East River. Today there's a Corlears Hook Park on the site.</p>)
  • Quickstep Club of Paterson v Active Club of Newark on 24 June 1864  + (<p>Correcting score from Daily Register of 6/25</p>)
  • Oina  + (<p>Corrections and addition to this <p>Corrections and addition to this account are encouraged.  If readers know of Romanian speakers willing to help, some central questions include:</p></br><p>[] What are the major playing rules?</p></br><p>[] Does the game remain widely popular?</p></br><p>[] What is know of the origins and history of the sport?</p>lt;/p> <p>[] What is know of the origins and history of the sport?</p>)
  • 1855.21  + (<p>Craig Waff reported that, as far as he could tell, this was the first game in which the size of the assembled crowd was reported.</p>)
  • 1867.9  + (<p>Creation of  phantom jobs for ballplayers was a commonplace in baseball's amateur era.</p>)
  • Pottsville Cricket Club in July 1858  + (<p>Cricket Club in Pottsville 1858-66, and perhaps earlier.</p> <p>A "Ball Club" is mentioned in the same newspaper in 1843, but this might refer to "foot ball" (soccer).</p>)
  • In Hanover in 1793  + (<p>Cricket said to have been played at Dartmouth in the 1830s. See https://www.dreamcricket.com/articles/history-of-american-cricket/history-of-american-cricket-part-ii--1800-to-1850/</p>)
  • In Worcester in 1860  + (<p>Cricket said to have been played at Holy Cross College in Worcester prior to the Civil War. See Dream Cricket website.</p>)
  • 1870.6  + (<p>Critics of the game had long insisted that low-scoring games were indicated play of higher quality.</p>)
  • In GA in 1835  + (<p>Curry attended school in Lincolnton, GA 1833, 1835-37, and the Willingdon Academy in SC in 1834.</p>)
  • 1867.23  + (<p>Custis Lee, General Lee's son, had served on Lee's staff during the war. General Smith was superintendent at VMI. The flags referred to were probably foul-line flags used to mark the foul lines on fields not enclosed.</p>)
  • 1840s.45  + (<p>Cutting is listed as a member of the Class of 1871, and thus probably had little direct knowledge of early campus sports.  His impressions to round ball and perhaps wicket may have been relayed informally from older persons on campus.</p>)
  • 1862.50  + (<p>D. P. Hopkins and Benjamin Frankl<p>D. P. Hopkins and Benjamin Franklin Ezell (1839 MS - 1913 TX) were members of Norris' Frontier Battalion which in March 1862 was stationed at/near Kerrville, TX. The Hopkins diary was published in the San Antonio Express, 1-13-1918. The March 15, 1862 entry (on page 23 of the Express) mentions this game, and mentions that the troops made their own ball out of yarn socks. [ba]</p> made their own ball out of yarn socks. [ba]</p>)
  • 1855c.10  + (<p>Damon added: "[[Aipuni]], the Hawaiians called it, or rounders, perhaps because the bat had a larger rounder end.t was a a forerunner of baseball, but the broad, heavy bat was held close to thee ground."</p>)
  • 1820s.22  + (<p>Danforth, born in 1822, became a judge. Williamstown MA is in the NW corner of the commonwealth, and lies about 35 miles E of Albany NY.</p>)
  • 1858.59  + (<p>Dansville NY (2010 population about 4700) is about 40 miles S of Rochester in western NY. Per the Dansville Historical Society, the facility in question was a water cure (hydropathy) center called <span>Our Home on the Hillside.</span></p>)
  • In Peekskill in 1845  + (<p>Date is approximate.</p>)
  • 1799.1  + (<p>David Block (BBWKI, page 183; see<p>David Block (BBWKI, page 183; see also his 19CBB advice, below) notes that Cooke was in correspondence with her cousin Jane Austen in 1798, when both were evidently writing novels containing references to base-ball. Also submitted to Protoball 8/19/06 by Ian Maun.</p></br><p>Cooke, like Austen, did seem to believe that readers in the early 1800s might be familiar with base- ball.</p>rs in the early 1800s might be familiar with base- ball.</p>)
  • BC2400c.1  + (<p>David Block [<span>Baseball Before We Knew It</span>, page 303 (note 1)] writes that Piccione’s identification of <em>seker-hemat </em>with baseball is “apparently speculative in nature.”</p>)
  • 1847.11  + (<p>David Block explains, 2/27/2008: <p>David Block explains, 2/27/2008: "Clearly, the writer had curling confused with ice hockey, which was itself an embryonic sport that the time." Or maybe he confused it with ice-hurling, which actually employs a ball. </p></br><p>From Richard Hershberger, 12/8/09: "What makes this so interesting is that the response speaks of "bass ball" played on ice. This is a decade before such games were commonly reported, suggesting that the [later] practice by organized clubs was borrowed from older, informal play on ice."</p>ubs was borrowed from older, informal play on ice."</p>)
  • Pize Ball  + (<p>David Block in Pastime Lost posit<p>David Block in Pastime Lost posits that "pize-ball" and "tut-ball" were regional names for English baseball. I would toss in that "pize-ball" may well be a rounded-down form of dialectical "pizin-ball" i.e. poison-ball, which calls to mind the French <em>la balle empoisonnee</em> or Poison Ball: a very similar game where, again, the ball was swatted with the hand. --W C Hicklin</p></br><p>From Gomme, p. 45:</p></br><p>"Pize Ball</p></br><p>Sides are picked ; as, for example, six on one side and six on the other, and three or four marks or tuts are fixed in a field. Six go out to field, as in cricket, and one of these</p></br><p>throws the ball to one of those who remain "at home," and the one "at home" strikes or pizes it with his hand. After pizing it he runs to one of the " tuts," but if before he can get to the " tut " he is struck with the ball by one of those in the field, he is said to be bumt^ or out. In that case the other side go out to field — ^Addy*s Sheffield Glossary. See " Rounders."</p> that case the other side go out to field — ^Addy*s Sheffield Glossary. See " Rounders."</p>)
  • 1844.14  + (<p>David Block observes: "<span s<p>David Block observes: "<span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">the sentence describing the boy's skill at taking evasive action when threatened by soaking seems significant to me. I don't recall ever seeing this skill discussed before, and, although long obsolete, it must have stood as one of the more valuable tools of the base runner in the era of soaking/plugging ." </span> </p>era of soaking/plugging ." </span> </p>)
  • 1856.13  + (<p>David Block reports that these rules are generic, not restricted to one club. </p> <p>This may be the first publication specifically devoted to base ball.</p>)
  • 1830s.13  + (<p>David Block's forthcoming 2019 book may address the rules of English Base-Ball in this period.</p>)
  • 1830c.39  + (<p>David Block, 5/3/2021, on the ide<p>David Block, 5/3/2021, on the idea that ballplaying clubs were though to be extinct in 1837:  "Not quite extinct."</p></br><p>Tom Gilbert, 5/4/2021: "We knew -- largely indirectly -- that there were adult bb clubs and a thriving bb scene in NYC in the 1830s and probably earlier, but it is great to see confirmation, and by a contemporary source. This also underlines the importance of Stevens's Elysian Fields in helping to preserve the incipient sport from being snuffed out by rapid urban development, in a sort of incubator.</p></br><div>(And the connection between the gymnastics movement and the baseball movement is closer than might appear. We can identify Knickerbocker bbc club members, Excelsiors and others who exercised at NYC and Brooklyn gyms, including I believe Fuller's)."</div></br><div> </div></br><div>Stephen Katz, (19CBB posting 5/4/2021) points out that ironically, 1837 is also the year claimed for the establishment of the Gothams.  See Wheaton letter at [[1837.1]]</div></br><div> </div></br><div> </div></br><p> </p>37.1]]</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <p> </p>)
  • 1820.1  + (<p>David Block, <span style="text<p>David Block, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Baseball Before We Knew It</span>, page 188, adds that it is unusual among chapbooks as "more space and detail are devoted to "playing ball" than to cricket, which at the time was a more established game."  </p></br><p>While the text does not explicitly mention or show base-running, David Block thinks of this as an early account of English base ball. </p> this as an early account of English base ball. </p>)
  • 1848.1  + (<p>David also feels that a new rule appeared in the 1848 list that a runner cannot score a run on a force out for the third out. David Block posting to 19CBB, 1/5/2006.</p>)
  • 1661.1  + (<p>David further asks: "could it be that this is the source of the term putting "English" on a ball?"</p>)
  • American Base Ball Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Days of exercise - Mondays and Thursdays</p> <p>Home Grounds - Harlem Cricket Grounds</p>)
  • In Newtonville in 1823  + (<p>Debate as to the location and exact date, with Bangor, ME the alternative. See 1823C.4, 1820S.12</p>)
  • Gotham Club of New York  + (<p>Despite the conflicting views as to the pedigree of the team, for the time being all players and games from either the 1837 or 1853 incarnations of the Gothams appear on the page of the 1837 team. http://fast.protoball.org/Gothams_Club_of_New_York</p>)
  • Gothams Club of New York  + (<p>Despite the conflicting views as <p>Despite the conflicting views as to the pedigree of the team, for the time being all players who appeared with either the 1837 or 1853 incarnations of the Gothams, as well as the 1851-1852 Washingtons, appear on this page. </p></br><p>The 19thcbaseball website says this club played two games against the Knickerbockers in 1852. No score is given.</p>inst the Knickerbockers in 1852. No score is given.</p>)
  • Athletic Club of Brooklyn  + (<p>Did not play first match until May 25, 1868.</p> <p>Brunson, "Black Baseball" says there was a colored Athletic Club of Brooklyn</p>)
  • Keystone Club of Jersey City2  + (<p>Different from other (black) club of that name.</p>)
  • Club of St. Louis  + (<p>Do we know how long this club played?</p> <p> </p>)
  • California Base Ball Variant  + (<p>Do we know if this variant persisted in California?  What do we know about the Cuban variant, and its fate?</p>)
  • Richmond Club of Richmond v Spottswood Base Ball Club of Richmond on 23 November 1866  + (<p>Do we know that this high-scoring game followed Association rules?</p>)
  • 1845.33  + (<p>Do we know when this late-season <p>Do we know when this late-season  intramural match was played?  (Craig Waff's Games Tab lists Hoboken games on the 7th, 10th, 15th, and 18th of November 1845.  The game on the 10th used eight players on a side and ended in at 32-22 score.  See:</p></br><p>https://protoball.org/Knickerbocker_Base_Ball_Club_of_New_York_v_Knickerbocker_Base_Ball_Club_of_New_York_on_10_November_1845</p>Club_of_New_York_on_10_November_1845</p>)
  • 1784.1  + (<p>Does it sound like hand ball ("fives") may be the troublesome type of play?</p>)