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  • 1846.6  + (<p> </p> <p><strong&g<p> </p></br><p><strong>Note:  </strong>Whitman's text also presented at John Thorn's <em>Our Game</em> at <a class="ydp55524770yiv9689899570moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ourgame.mlblogs.com/opening-day-e5f9021c5dda" rel="nofollow">https://ourgame.mlblogs.com/opening-day-e5f9021c5dda</a>.</p></br><p><strong>Note:  </strong>Other connections between Whitman and base ball at at [[1845.31]], [[1855.9]], and [[1858.25]].</p></br><p> </p>25]].</p> <p> </p>)
  • 1825.2  + (<p> </p> <p><strong&g<p> </p></br><p><strong>Note: </strong>George Thompson has conducted research on the backgrounds of the listed players: personal communications, 11/3/2003. He found a range of players' ages from 19 to the mid-30's. It is held in PBall file #1825.2.</p>from 19 to the mid-30's. It is held in PBall file #1825.2.</p>)
  • 1862.104  + (<p> </p> <p>Camp Doubled<p> </p></br><p>Camp Doubleday is described in an 1896 source as "just outside Brooklyn city limits."  See:</p></br><p>https://museum.dmna.ny.gov/unit-history/artillery/5th-heavy-artillery-regiment/prison-pens-south; Other sources locate it on Long Island, NY.</p></br><p>A third source locates Camp Doubleday in Northwest Washington DC:  https://www.northamericanforts.com/East/dc.html#NW</p></br><p>So <em>which location</em> is depicted on this letterhead?</p></br><p>[1] From John Thorn email, 2/5/2022;  "<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Camp Doubleday appears to be in DC. It was also known as Fort Massachusetts. [SOURCE: </span></span><span>HISTORY OF THE SEVENTY-SIXTH REGIMENT NEW YORK VOLUNTEERS; WHAT IT ENDURED AND ACCOMPLISHED ; CONTAINING DESCRIPTIONS OF ITS TWENTY -FIVE BATTLES ; ITS MARCHES ; ITS CAMP AND BIVOUAC SCENES ; WITH BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF FIFTY - THREE OFFICERS, AND A COMPLETE RECORD OF THE ENLISTED MEN . BY A. P. SMITH, LATE FIRST LIEUTENANT AND Q. M. , SEVENTY- SIXTH N. Y. VOLS. ILLUSTRATED WITH FORTY -NINE ENGRAVINGS ON WOOD, BY J. P. DAVIS & SPEER, OF NEW YORK ; AND A LITHOGRAPH , BY L. N. ROSENTHAL, OF PHILADELPHIA . CORTLAND, N. Y. PRINTED FOR THE PUBLISHER. 1867]"</span></p></br><p><span>[2] From Bruce Allardice email, 2/5/2022: </span></p></br><div dir="ltr">"The Camp Doubleday mentioned is the one near Washington DC. The 76th regiment was not stationed near Brooklyn in 1862, but was stationed in/near DC. It was in a brigade commanded by Abner Doubleday, hence the 'Camp Doubleday' designation."</div></br><p>--- </p></br><p>David Block suggests the drawing (see below: game is shown near the image's center) shows Drive Ball, a fungo game.  See  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Baseball Before We Knew It</span> ,(2005),  page 198.  See also the sketchy Protoball Glossary entry on [[Drive Ball]].</p></br><p>-- </p></br><p>One auction house in 2015 claimed <span> "This is perhaps the very first piece of American stationery depicting Union soldiers playing baseball. Amazingly, this lithograph has it all by showing Union soldiers at play in Camp Doubleday which, of course, was named after the game's creator Abner Doubleday!"</span></p></br><p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">-- </span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">From John Thorn, 2/22/22: "Lithographer is Louis N. Rosenthal of Philadelphia. Born 1824."  See </span></span><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: large;" href="https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/object/digitool%3A79709">https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/object/digitool%3A79709</a></p></br><p> </p>freetext" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: large;" href="https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/object/digitool%3A79709">https://digital.librarycompany.org/islandora/object/digitool%3A79709</a></p> <p> </p>)
  • 1870c.7  + (<p> </p> <p>In the 1880s<p> </p></br><p>In the 1880s we find a claim that catchers' gloves had been known in the 1860s:</p></br><p>"An exchange says that 'Jim White, the third baseman of the Detroit club, was the first man who ever used gloves while catching behind the bat.'  This is a mistake. Delavarge, the catcher of the old Knickerbockers, an amateur club of Albany, used gloves when playing behind the bat in the sixties."  <em>The Sporting News</em> July 5, 1885.</p></br><p>But in a 9/21/16 19CBB posting, Bob Tholkes wrote:</p></br><p>"I've read several Knick of Albany game accounts in which Delavarge played without running into any mention of gloves. If he wore them, it would have been to protect an injured hand (he was a blacksmith, if memory serves), and not routinely."</p></br><p>And then David Arcidiacono offered the 1870 Allison item listed above. </p></br><p> </p>David Arcidiacono offered the 1870 Allison item listed above. </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1750s.2  + (<p> </p> <p>Prisoner's base is not a ball game, and bull-pen is not a safe-haven game.</p>)
  • 1868c.5  + (<p> </p> <p>Richard Hers<p> </p></br><p>Richard Hershberger notes, 9/12/2017:</p></br><p>"My opinion has been that this is unsubstantiated, but plausible.  I want to focus here on the bit about the writer's nephew working for Harwood.  I just made the connection with this description of baseball manufacture, from four years earlier:</p></br><p><br/>'On the upper floor of the establishment sat several men with baskets of dampened chamois and buckskin clippings at their sides.  Before each workman stood a stout piece of joist, in the end of which was inserted a mold, hemispherical in shape, in which the balls are formed.  Taking a handful of cuttings from the basket, the workman pressed them together in his hands and then worked about the mass a few yards of strong woollen yarn.  Placing the embryo ball in the mold, he pounded it into shape with a heavy flat mallet, and then wound on more yarn and gave the ball another pounding.  After testing its weight on a pair of scales and its diameter with a tape measure he threw the ball into a basket and began another.  When the newly-made balls are thoroughly dried they are carried to the sewing-room on the floor below, where they are to receive their covers.  Forty young women sat at tables sewing on the covers of horse-hide.  Grasping a ball firmly in her left hand, with her right hand one of the young women thrust a three-cornered needle through the thick pieces of the cover and drew them firmly together.  A smart girl can cover two or three dozen of the best and eight dozen of the cheaper grades of balls in a day.  The wages earned weekly range from $7 to $9.  The balls are afterward taken to the packing-room, where the seams are smoothed down and the proper stamps are put on.  The best balls are made entirely of yarn and India-rubber. “My brother was one of the pioneers in this business,” said the manufacturer.  “He was the inventor of the two-piece cover now in general use throughout the country.  If my brother had only patented his invention the members of our family would not be wearing diamonds instead of bits of white glass in our shirt fronts.  Ball-covers are made, almost without exception, of horse-hide, which costs $3 a side.  We used to obtain our supply from John Cart, a leather dealer in the Swamp for nearly thirty-five years.  We are obliged to go to Philadelphia now, there being no merchant here who keeps horse-hide leather.  The capacity of our factory when we get our new molding machines in working order will be about 15,000 daily, each machine being expected to turn out 1,200 balls daily.'  (<em>St. Louis Post-Dispatch</em> June 14, 1884, quoting the <em>New York Tribune</em>)</p></br><p><br/>"It is the second paragraph that jumped out at me.  Was C. H. Jackson's nephew working for Harwood because that was his father's business?  It seems plausible.  The Post-Dispatch piece doesn't identify the manufacturer, or even the city.  I have been unable to find the Tribune original.  If anyone else can, this might shed some light on the question.  Or confuse it further."</p>)
  • 1872.5  + (<p> </p> <p>Richard Hers<p> </p></br><p>Richard Hershberger, <em>150 years ago in baseball </em>(FB posting, 4/4/2022)</p></br><p>"Chadwick on amateur clubs. He is optimistic that amateur baseball will be more popular than ever, since the existence of separate amateur and professional associations ensures that no one will mistake an amateur player as being a professional.</p></br><p><br/><span>There is a lot of classic Chad here. He hopes for an amateur "revival," and so reports that it will happen. He quietly passes over the detail that there were separate associations last year, too. He defines professionals as members of any club that "either pays its players regular salaries or pays them by a share of gate receipts." Then in the next paragraph he adds a class of "quasi amateur organizations" without explaining what these are. This is Chad in his ideologically-motivated hand-waving mode.</span><br/><br/><span>In reality there is no need for a revival. Amateur baseball was doing just fine. Chad is right that there were far more amateur teams than professional. The same is true today. It could hardly be otherwise. But notice the three specific clubs he identifies: the Knickerbockers, Gothams, and Excelsiors. These are the kind of amateur clubs he likes, on the old fraternal club model. This model is, in 1872, irrelevant. Those three clubs are dinosaurs. The amateur club of this era is nine guys, with perhaps one or two substitutes, organized for the purpose of playing--and beating!--other, similarly organized clubs. These clubs are amateur or semi-professional or professional precisely to the extent that they can persuade people to pay to watch them play. Chadwick's idea of how baseball should be organized is a thing of the past. He will figure this out eventually, but we need to give him time to process." </span></p>rganized is a thing of the past. He will figure this out eventually, but we need to give him time to process." </span></p>)
  • 1832.11  + (<p> </p> <p>See [[1831.7]] for an earlier  assembly involving the same two hosts. </p>)
  • 1802.3  + (<p> </p> <p>Tom Altherr <p> </p></br><p>Tom Altherr comments that while Mrs. Bascom disdained such activities on Sundays, she had "left valuable evidence of the seemingly commonplace status ball play had in her day in the South.  Moreover, despite the ambiguity of her [May 9] diary entry, African Americans may have been playing ball, perhaps even with whites."  </p>g ball, perhaps even with whites."  </p>)
  • The Union Hall Game of Ball  + (<p> </p> <p>Was this sch<p> </p></br><p>Was this schoolyard game a significant step in the evolution toward modern base ball? </p></br><p>We welcome input on the nature and place of the Union Hall game in the evolution of modern base ball.</p></br><p>Protoball has seen many references to what amounts to foul territory in single wicket cricket, but all of them seem to simply disallow base-running when a hit ball goes past the batter.  Was the use of foul ground for forward hits common in American ballplaying?</p>foul ground for forward hits common in American ballplaying?</p>)
  • 1845.16  + (<p> </p> <p>[] Richard H<p> </p></br><p>[] Richard Hershberger adds that one can not be sure that these were the same sides that played on October 21/25, noting that the <em>Morning Post</em> refers here just to New York "players", and not to the New York Club.</p></br><p>[] See also [[1845.4]] for the October 21/25 games.</p></br><p>[] John Thorn, 11/16/2022, points out that "<span>Eight to the side was the norm in 1845, as Adams had not yet created the position of shortstop."</span></p></br><p><span>[] In January 2023, a further question arose: Was this game played by modern rules?  Could base ball's first known match game have been played in Brooklyn . . . . and on a cricket pitch?  It was evidently played to 21 runs, and its eight players preceded the invention of a 9th, a shortstop. </span></p></br><p><span>Bob Tholkes, to Protoball, 1/30/2023: "<span>It’s a judgement. Wheaton, the writer of the Knick rules umpired the later two [1845 matches] so I’ve assumed they were played by them…don’t know that about the first game." </span><br/></span></p></br><p> </p>were played by them…don’t know that about the first game." </span><br/></span></p> <p> </p>)
  • Richmond Club of Richmond  + (<p> </p> <table class="stat<p> </p></br><table class="stats"></br><tbody></br><tr></br><td></br><p>"Baseball didn't take root in Richmond until 1866, and the pioneer appears to have been Alexander Babcock, a New Yorker who played for Atlantic of Brooklyn in the 1850s, but went south and fought for the Confederacy, settling in Richmond after the war. He founded the Richmond Club, probably the first there, and then the Pastimes, which was a sort of City All-Stars and touring team."  -- Bill Hicklin, 10/5/2020</p></br></td></br></tr></br></tbody></br></table>uring team."  -- Bill Hicklin, 10/5/2020</p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>)
  • 1855.5  + (<p> <strong>Note:</strong&g<p> <strong>Note:</strong> Seymour did not name the seven listed clubs; drat.</p></br><p>As of mid-2013, Protoball lists a total of 30 clubs operating in the NYC area New York State:  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>nine</em></span> were in Brooklyn (Atlantic, Bedford, Columbia, Continental, Eckford, Excelsior, Harmony, Putnam, and Washington), <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>five</em></span> in Manhattan (Baltic, Eagle, Empire, Gotham, and Knickerbocker -- all but the Baltic playing one or more games at Hoboken), <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>two</em></span> (Atlantic of Jamaica, Astoria) in Queens, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">two</span> (Union, Young America) in Morrisania [Bronx].  See [[<a>http://protoball.org/Clubs_in_NY</a>]]  In addition, <em>twelve</em> clubs are listed in New Jersey (Empire, Excelsior, Fear Not, Newark Senior, Newark Junior, Oriental-cum-Olympic, Pavonia, Palisades, Pioneer, St. John, and Washington). See[[<a>http://protoball.org/Clubs_in_NJ</a>]]. </p></br><p>These clubs played in about 35 reported match games; over fifteen reports of intramural play are also known.  There are reports of only one junior club (in NJ) and match play by one "second nine" (a Knickerbocker match game).</p></br><p>Corrections and additions are welcome. </p>nior club (in NJ) and match play by one "second nine" (a Knickerbocker match game).</p> <p>Corrections and additions are welcome. </p>)
  • 1826.3  + (<p> <strong>Note</strong><p> <strong>Note</strong> that this find comes five years before town ball is seen in Philadelphia.</p></br><p> From Bruce Allardice, email of 6/9/2021:</p></br><div dir="ltr"><span>"In the year 1823, Dr. John G. Coffin, established a journal in Boston entitled, <em>"The Boston Medical Intelligencer</em>, devoted to the cause of physical education, and to the means of preventing and curing diseases." The motto in the title page was as follows :- "The best part of the medical art, is the avoiding of pain." This journal some five or six years afterward, became the "<em>Boston Medical and Surgical Journal</em>," "</span></div></br><div dir="ltr"><span> </span></div></br><div dir="ltr"><span>Dr. John G. Coffin (1769-1828), married. Eliza Rice.</span></div></br><div dir="ltr"><span> </span></div></br><div dir="ltr"><span>This is undoubtedly one of the petitioners for the gymnasium.</span></div></br><div dir="ltr"><span>The mentioned William Sullivan is probably Judge William Sullivan (1774-1839), a prominent local politician and lawyer.</span></div></br><p> </p>ymnasium.</span></div> <div dir="ltr"><span>The mentioned William Sullivan is probably Judge William Sullivan (1774-1839), a prominent local politician and lawyer.</span></div> <p> </p>)
  • Austin Base Ball Club  + (<p> It had 2039 residents in 1870.</p>)
  • Seabury Base Ball Club of Faribault  + (<p> It had 3045 residents in 1870.</p>)
  • 1850s.33  + (<p> It is interesting that the game <p> It is interesting that the game of wicket is not mentioned, given Ashland's location in western MA.</p></br><p>As of Jan 2013, this is one of three uses of "gool" instead of "goal" in ballplaying entries, all in the 1850s and found in western MA and ME.  [To confirm/update, do an enhanced search for "gool".]  This is the only entry that uses "gool" as the actual name of the game.</p>es "gool" as the actual name of the game.</p>)
  • 1853.11  + (<p> Pownal ME is about 20 miles north of Portland.</p>)
  • 1828c.3  + (<p> Priscilla Astifan has looked hard for such an article, and it resists finding.  She suspects the article appeared in a newspaper whose contents were not preserved.</p>)
  • 1861.13  + (<p> Ravenna OH is about 35 miles SE of Cleveland in eastern Ohio.</p>)
  • 1861.12  + (<p> Sanford ME is about 30 miles N of Portsmouth NH, near the NH border.</p>)
  • 1840c.26  + (<p> See also 1837c.12</p> <p>Craig reported that Oakey, 65 years old in 1894, had attended Erasmus Hall from 1838 to 1845.</p> <p>David Dyte added details in a July 3, 2009 19CBB posting. </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1660c.3  + (<p>(Jacobs) says that unfortunately "balslaen" has been translated as cricket but it simply means hitting the ball.</p>)
  • Eagle Base Ball Club of New York v Eckford Club of Brooklyn on 23 July 1861  + (<p>17 total home runs hit in the match, 11 by the Eckford and 6 by the Eagle.  Josh Snyder, SS for the Eckford, hit four.</p> <p>Eckford CF, John Snyder, hurt his knee in the ninth inning and was replaced by Wm. Brown.</p>)
  • Club of Albany  + (<p>1882 African American ball club</p>)
  • 1867.8  + (<p>19cbb post by Peter Morris, Nov. 8, 2002</p>)
  • Old Dominion Club of Alexandria v Mt. Vernon Club of Alexandria on 15 October 1866  + (<p>2nd nines for both teams.  Game started at 2:15 PM and ended at 5:30 PM.  Old Dominion played without a shortstop for most of the game as he was delayed for some reason.  See clipping for more detail, including boxscore.</p>)
  • 1857.38  + (<p><br/>"For President Buchana<p><br/>"For President Buchanan in 1857, a new reverse to the (latest "Indian Peace") Medal was commissioned from engraver Joseph Wilson . . . .  [The medal showed] in the distance, a simple home with a woman standing in the doorway -- <em>and a baseball game being playing in the foreground. . . . </em></p></br><p>"No matter what some gentlemen were saying in New York at the "national" conventions of area clubs, the frontier game of baseball, in all its variety, was already perceived as the national game."</p></br><p>-- John Thorn, "Our Baseball Presidents," Our Game posting, February 2018.</p></br><p><strong> </strong></p></br><p><strong> </strong></p>ary 2018.</p> <p><strong> </strong></p> <p><strong> </strong></p>)
  • 1807.3  + (<p><em>2008 update</em>:<p><em>2008 update</em>: John Thorn [email of 2/3/2008] discovers that others have been unable to determine exactly who the poet was, as there were three people with the name Garrett Barry in that area at that time. One of the three, who died at thirty in 1810, attended St. Mary's College in Baltimore.</p>hirty in 1810, attended St. Mary's College in Baltimore.</p>)
  • 1840.6  + (<p><em><strong>Note: <<p><em><strong>Note: </strong> </em>John Thorn traces the Eagle Club further on pages 35 and 51-53.  In 1852, It was to join  the Knickerbockers and to arrive at a revisin of the Knickerbocker Rules.</p></br><p> </p></br><p>On January 7, 2021, Richard Hershberger advised the following:  </p></br><div dir="ltr">"The entry currently states that William Wood says the Eagle Club originally played in the old fashioned way.  Wood says no such thing.  He says that there were two clubs in New York City that date as far back as 1832 and which played in the old fashioned way.  He does not identify the Eagle Club with either.  This is a strictly modern supposition.  I'm not saying it is wrong, but there is no evidence for it, and the entry as it stands is misleading."  This error was corrected 1/16/2021.  Thanks RRH!</div>orrected 1/16/2021.  Thanks RRH!</div>)
  • 1835.19  + (<p><em><strong>Note</<p><em><strong>Note</strong>: </em>In the following paragraph, the man is called "Joseph Haywood". This is a reminisce of a fellow student in boyhood, Jos. Haywood, at a school where one Ephraim Johnson was the teacher. It is probably fictional. Haywood loved to spout Greek and Latin and inspired his fellow students to apply Greek and Latin phrases to their schoolboy games. I've searched both names and can't find anything suitable in NY.</p></br><p>David Block, 6/1/2021: An "article extolling fellow student at an unnamed school."</p>lock, 6/1/2021: An "article extolling fellow student at an unnamed school."</p>)
  • Velocipedes Club of Wauseon  + (<p><em>Defiance</em> Democrat, July 27, 1867; Wauseon <em>New Republican</em>, June 24, 1869</p>)
  • Potomac Club of Washington v National Club of Washington on 5 May 1860  + (<p><em>Evening Star</em>, May 7, 1860 has the Potomac scoring 35 runs, not 37.</p>)
  • 1867.6  + (<p><em>Note: </em>for a <p><em>Note: </em>for a 1916 account of the history of the "hit," see the supplemental text below.</p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For a short history of batting measures, see Colin Dew-Becker, “Foundations of Batting Analysis,”  </span><span style="font-size: medium;">p 1 – 9:</span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>Lf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>)
  • Forest City Club of Ithaca v Mechanic Club of Groton on 5 September 1866  + (<p><em>Note: </em>The lo<p><em>Note: </em>The location of this game is not specified.</p></br><p><em>Note:</em>  Tom Shieber of the Baseball Hall of Fame writes:  </p></br><p>"[T]his gilded [trophy] ball unquestionably features a figure-eight seam pattern. Of course, there’s no guarantee that a trophy ball is the actual ball used in the game it commemorates. Conceivably, a trophy ball might be damaged/lost/disposed/etc. and later replaced with a replacement trophy ball. Thus, this ball might commemorate the 9/5/1866 game, but actually have been made and gilded many years later. If I am not mistaken, I recall having run into this scenario once before (though details escape me), but I would say this is a rare occurrence at best.  Anyway, I thought I had better mention it".</p>e occurrence at best.  Anyway, I thought I had better mention it".</p>)
  • 1858.19  + (<p><em>Porter's Spirit of the Times </em>reported on July 17, 1858 that the Louisville BBC had been organized on June 10, 1858.</p>)
  • Agallian Club of Middletown  + (<p><span class="less">The Agal<p><span class="less">The Agallian Base Ball Club was the first formally organized baseball team at Wesleyan University. It was formed in the autumn of 1864 and played its first matches against other teams the following spring. Baseball had been played informally at Wesleyan back to at least 1860. Baseball letters were given (often at a considerably later date) to Wesleyan athletes in baseball beginning with the 1861-62 season. The name Agallian was given by professor</span><span class="more"> of Greek James Van Benschoten as a derivation of the name Agalles, who was said to have invented the first game of ball-playing in ancient Greece (cf. College Argus, June 11, 1868).<br/><br/>The club played its first match against the Charter Oak Base Ball Club of Hartford in the spring of 1865, losing 22-12. Its first intercollegiate game, which was also Wesleyan’s first intercollegiate athletic contest, was against Yale on September 30, 1865, with Yale winning 39-13. One of club’s founders, Charles L. Bonnell, class of 1868, served as captain for his entire playing career. The first practices and home games took place on the Washington Street green in Middletown and on a nearby vacant plot of land on Washington Street. Later photos exist of games being played on the Wesleyan campus on what is now Andrus Field, which at the time was essentially an undrained swamp or wetlands. The Agallian club was not a formally sponsored university team but a club composed of members of several Wesleyan classes. A later organization, the University Base Ball Club, founded in 1869, seems to have had a more formal endorsement from the administration.<br/><br/>The Agallian B.B.C. ceased to function after 1871, when baseball began to be eclipsed by the popularity of rowing as a collegiate sport. Aside from informal contests between class teams, Wesleyan was not to have an organized baseball program again until 1888.</span></p></br><p><span class="more">https://archives.wesleyan.edu/repositories/sca/resources/wesleyan_university_agallian_base_ball_club_record</span></p>eyan.edu/repositories/sca/resources/wesleyan_university_agallian_base_ball_club_record</span></p>)
  • 1845.4  + (<p><span style="font-family: Cali<p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Hoboken leans on the early use of Elysian Fields to call the town the "Birthplace of Baseball."  It wasn't, but in June 2015 John Zinn wrote a thoughtful appreciation of Hoboken's role in the establishment of the game.  See   <a href="http://amanlypastime.blogspot.com/,">http://amanlypastime.blogspot.com/,</a> essay of June 15, 2015, "Proving What Is So."  <br/></span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br/></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For a short history of batting measures, see Colin Dew-Becker, “Foundations of Batting Analysis,”  </span><span style="font-size: medium;">p 1 – 9: </span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>e/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>)
  • 1869.5  + (<p><span style="font-family: Cali<p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For a short history of batting measures, see Colin Dew-Becker, “Foundations of Batting Analysis,”  </span><span style="font-size: medium;">p 1 – 9:</span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>)
  • 1868.2  + (<p><span style="font-family: Cali<p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For a short history of batting measures, see Colin Dew-Becker, “Foundations of Batting Analysis,”  </span><span style="font-size: medium;">p 1 – 9:</span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>)
  • 1869.6  + (<p><span style="font-family: Cali<p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For a short history of batting measures, see Colin Dew-Becker, “Foundations of Batting Analysis,”  </span><span style="font-size: medium;">p 1 – 9:</span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>)
  • 1859.69  + (<p><span style="font-family: Cali<p><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For a short history of batting measures, see Colin Dew-Becker, “Foundations of Batting Analysis,”  </span><span style="font-size: medium;">p 1 – 9:</span></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0btLf16riTacFVEUV9CUi1UQ3c/</a> </span></p>)
  • 1864.49  + (<p><span style="font-family: Time<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Of special interest here is co-author George S. Hilliard, whose background may explain why he regarded base-ball and bat and ball as the same game.  Hilliard (1808 – 1879) was born in Machias on the coast of Maine, where the term “the bat and ball” was used to describe a specific baseball-like game (see B. Turner, “The Bat and Ball,” </span><em><span style="font-size: medium;">Base Ball</span></em><span style="font-size: medium;"> (Spring 2011).  Starting in 1828, Hilliard was an instructor at the Round Hill School in Northampton, MA, where baseball-like games were part of the physical education curriculum (see, entry [[1823.6]]; also see</span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> B. Turner, “Cogswell’s Bat,” </span><em><span style="font-size: medium;">Base Ball</span></em><span style="font-size: medium;"> (Spring 2010)).  </span></span></p>pan></em><span style="font-size: medium;"> (Spring 2010)).  </span></span></p>)
  • 1810s.9  + (<p><span style="font-family: Time<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Using stones for bases fits Carver’s 1834 description of “base or goal ball.” Elwyn also specifies that an inning was “one out, side out,” a feature of the Massachusetts game later codified in 1858.   And, of course, that old New England favorite, “soaking.”</span></p>lt;/p>)
  • 1729.1  + (<p><span style="font-family: Time<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Brian Turner notes that this find "predates by 33 years the 1762 ban on bat-and-ball (along with foot-ball, cricket, and throwing snow-balls and stones in the streets of Salem -- see entry [[1762.2]]).  It also predates by two decades a reference in a 1750s French & Indian war diary kept by Benjamin Glazier of </span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Ipswich."  (See entry [[1758.1]])</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><br/></span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Gilman was from a leading family of New Hampshire, mainly centered in Exeter, a bit inland from Portsmouth, where Elwyn gave a description of 1810's "bat & ball," in which he certainly seems to name a specific game.  (See entry [[1810s.9]]).  Seccomb, also spelled Seccombe, was born and lived in Medford, Mass., and later in life wound up in Nova Scotia -- not because he was a Loyalist, but for other reasons.</span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Brian notes that "</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">By “Batchelors,” Gilman probably means students pursuing a bachelor’s degree, hence the categorization of this entry under "Youth."  For over two centuries, 14 was the age at which boys entered Harvard." (Email of 9/1/2014.)</span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"> </span></p></br><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>s New Roman; font-size: medium;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>)
  • Cavalry Base Ball  + (<p><span style="text-decoration: <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Note:</span> Protoball is not familiar enough with 1860s humor to determine exactly how authentic this report is. Bare ball-shooting guns sound pretty iffy.  But 1867 was the start of Base Ball Fever, and we guess someone might have tried mounted forms of the game.</p></br><p> </p></br><p><span>To see what may be a som</span><span>ewhat </span><span>similar game, try the droll </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcNWfcdEJ6E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcNWfcdEJ6E</a></p>f="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcNWfcdEJ6E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcNWfcdEJ6E</a></p>)
  • Portland Base Ball Club v Tri-Mountain Club of Boston on 28 June 1859  + (<p><span style="text-decoration: <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Tri-Mountains, 21 runs</span>:  C. C,. Dimond, 1b, 5 hands lost (outs), 0 runs; G. Arnold, Jr., 3b, 4 outs, 2 runs; I. H. Ware, 2b, 4 outs, 1 run; B. F. Guild, P, 4 outs, 1 run; F. N Scott, cf, 3 outs, 3 runs; J. W. Fletcher, lf, 2 outs, 4 runs; M. E. Chandler, rf, 1 out, 5 runs; H. F. Gill, ss, 3 outs, 3 runs; E. G. Saltzman, c, 1 out, 2 runs.</p></br><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Portland, 14 runs: G</span>. H. Abbott, c, 2 outs, 2 runs; G. W. Woodbury, 1b, 5 outs, 1 run; S. Chadwick, Jr, cf, 1 out, 3 runs; J. W. Blanchard [??], lf, 3 outs, 1 run; J. C. M Furbisk, p, 3 outs, 2 runs; J. H. Knight, 3b, 3 outs, 2 runs; H. D. Evans, 2b, 5 outs, 1 run; E. P . Ten Broeck, rf, 2 outs, 1 run; H. Waters, ss, 3 outs, 1 run.</p></br><p>Note; according to the reported line score, Portland batted last, and led 12-9 after six innings, but was outscored 12-2 in the final 3 innings.</p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p></br><p> </p>gs.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p>)
  • 1866.17  + (<p><span>"Baseball didn't take<p><span>"Baseball didn't take root in Richmond until 1866, and the pioneer appears to have been Alexander Babcock, a New Yorker who played for Atlantic of Brooklyn in the 1850s, but went south and fought for the Confederacy, settling in Richmond after the war. He founded the Richmond Club, probably the first there, and then the Pastimes, which was a sort of City All-Stars and touring team."  -- Bill Hicklin, 10/5/2020</span></p>ing team."  -- Bill Hicklin, 10/5/2020</span></p>)
  • Pastime Club of Richmond  + (<p><span>"Baseball didn't take<p><span>"Baseball didn't take root in Richmond until 1866, and the pioneer appears to have been Alexander Babcock, a New Yorker who played for Atlantic of Brooklyn in the 1850s, but went south and fought for the Confederacy, settling in Richmond after the war. He founded the Richmond Club, probably the first there, and then the Pastimes, which was a sort of City All-Stars and touring team."  -- Bill Hicklin, 10/5/2020</span></p>ing team."  -- Bill Hicklin, 10/5/2020</span></p>)
  • 1788.3  + (<p><span>"Baste-ball" is one o<p><span>"Baste-ball" is one of several alternate spellings of baseball that are found in 18th and 19th century writings. </span></p></br><p><span>"<em>The Trifle</em>r" was a weekly satirical literary journal that ran for less than one year. Its authors, writing under the nom de plume Timothy Touchstone, were reputed to be two Cambridge students and two Oxford students, all under the age of 20.</span></p></br><p><span>An earlier (1616) translator used the term "stool-ball," a game well known in England, for the ballplaying scene.  Block explains: "Stool-ball by then [1780s] was fading in popularity.  Instead, girls and young women of he towns and villages of southern England were embracing the game of baseball."   (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pastime Lost,</span> page 56.<span style="text-decoration: underline;">)</span></span></p></br><p><span> </span></p>/span> page 56.<span style="text-decoration: underline;">)</span></span></p> <p><span> </span></p>)
  • 1852.17  + (<p><span>"David Block's book &<p><span>"David Block's book <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pastimes Lost</span> cites Dickens mentioning games of ball in his letters"  reported Bruce Allardice, 3/24/2021.<br/></span></p></br><p>Dickens did mention <em>rounders</em> in an 1849 letter to an acquaintance during a holiday at the Isle of Wight: "I . . . have had a great game of rounders every afternoon."  (Block, pp. 212 and 271.)</p></br><p>Block also notes another Dickens reference to people "playing at ball," but the site was apparently known as a racket ground, may not have have involved a baserunning game. </p>e site was apparently known as a racket ground, may not have have involved a baserunning game. </p>)