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- 1845.16 + (<p> </p> <p>[] Richard H … <p> </p></br><p>[] Richard Hershberger adds that one can not be sure that these were the same sides that played on October 21/25, noting that the <em>Morning Post</em> refers here just to New York "players", and not to the New York Club.</p></br><p>[] See also [[1845.4]] for the October 21/25 games.</p></br><p>[] John Thorn, 11/16/2022, points out that "<span>Eight to the side was the norm in 1845, as Adams had not yet created the position of shortstop."</span></p></br><p><span>[] In January 2023, a further question arose: Was this game played by modern rules? Could base ball's first known match game have been played in Brooklyn . . . . and on a cricket pitch? It was evidently played to 21 runs, and its eight players preceded the invention of a 9th, a shortstop. </span></p></br><p><span>Bob Tholkes, to Protoball, 1/30/2023: "<span>It’s a judgement. Wheaton, the writer of the Knick rules umpired the later two [1845 matches] so I’ve assumed they were played by them…don’t know that about the first game." </span><br/></span></p></br><p> </p>were played by them…don’t know that about the first game." </span><br/></span></p> <p> </p>)