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|Comment=<p>from Richard Hershberger, 10/4/2020:</p>
<p>"Richmond is rich with abortive early connections with baseball.&nbsp; In actual practice, baseball took off in Richmond in the summer of 1866, right on schedule for its location, regardless of prior contact with the game."</p>
<p>"Richmond is rich with abortive early connections with baseball.&nbsp; In actual practice, baseball took off in Richmond in the summer of 1866, right on schedule for its location, regardless of prior contact with the game."</p>
<p>Some other Chronology entries touching on early base ball in Richmond include [[1857.36]], [[1861.1]], [[1863.99]], and [[1866.17]].&nbsp;</p>
<p>From Bruce Allardice, 10/5/20: "The unit was a famous unit of the Virginia volunteer militia, its members being among Richmond's 'elite.'. Captain Elliott became a Confederate army Lt. Colonel.&nbsp; The unit served in the war as part of the 1st Virginia Infantry CSA."</p>
<p>When base ball got to Richmond it swept in: as of October 2020, Protoball shows no clubs prior to 1866, but 24 clubs prior to 1867.</p>
<p>Protoball asked: Was it common for southern soldiers to travel to the north in 1859?&nbsp; Bruce:&nbsp; "This was not common. The cost was too great. The Richmond Greys were individually wealthy and could afford it. Drill competitions between companies in various cities was common in 1859."</p>
|Query=<p>Is it reasonable to speculate that the Richmond Grays were destined to fight against the north in the coming war?</p>
<p>Tom Gilbert pointed out , 10/5/20, that Greenwood Cemetery was even then a popular visitor attraction.</p>
<p>Is it reasonable to speculate that the members who went to Elysian Fields had heard of base ball and wanted to see the game first-hand?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration-line: underline;">Note:</span>&nbsp;When base ball got to Richmond it swept in: as of October 2020, Protoball shows no clubs prior to 1866, but 24 clubs prior to 1867.&nbsp; Some other Chronology entries touching on early base ball in Richmond include [[1857.36]], [[1861.1]], [[1863.99]], and [[1866.17]].&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was it common for southern soldiers to travel to the north in 1859?</p>
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"THE RICHMOND GRAYS.  The members of this company, now on a visit to this city, were excused from military duty yesterday, and went where they pleased.  Colonel Lefferts, of the National Guard, with several of his officers, took Captain Elliot and a party of the Grays to Greenwood Cemetery, where they passed a pleasant time in viewing the scenery and monuments.  Quite a number of the Grays visited Hoboken, N.J., where they enjoyed themselves witnessing a match game between rival base ball clubs.  To-day the Virginians will leave for home, and will be escorted to the place of embarkation by the Third and Seventh companies, National Guard, under the command of Captain James Price."  
 
 
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 New York Herald August 17, 1859
 
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from Richard Hershberger, 10/4/2020:

"Richmond is rich with abortive early connections with baseball.  In actual practice, baseball took off in Richmond in the summer of 1866, right on schedule for its location, regardless of prior contact with the game."

From Bruce Allardice, 10/5/20: "The unit was a famous unit of the Virginia volunteer militia, its members being among Richmond's 'elite.'. Captain Elliott became a Confederate army Lt. Colonel.  The unit served in the war as part of the 1st Virginia Infantry CSA."

Protoball asked: Was it common for southern soldiers to travel to the north in 1859?  Bruce:  "This was not common. The cost was too great. The Richmond Greys were individually wealthy and could afford it. Drill competitions between companies in various cities was common in 1859."

Tom Gilbert pointed out , 10/5/20, that Greenwood Cemetery was even then a popular visitor attraction.

Note: When base ball got to Richmond it swept in: as of October 2020, Protoball shows no clubs prior to 1866, but 24 clubs prior to 1867.  Some other Chronology entries touching on early base ball in Richmond include 1857.36, 1861.1, 1863.99, and 1866.17

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