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|Text=<p>"What's the first baseball card?&nbsp; (I say it's the invitation to the Magnolia Club's First Annual Ball ball in February 1844.)"</p>
|Text=<p>"What's the first baseball card?&nbsp; (I say it's the invitation to the Magnolia Club's First Annual Ball ball in February 1844.)"</p>
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<p>[Image to be added below, once Protoball gets help with this task.&nbsp; The Magnolia Card appears on the right side in the image.]&nbsp;</p>
<p>[Image to be added below, once Protoball gets help with this task.&nbsp; The Magnolia Club card/ticket appears on the right side in the image.]&nbsp;</p>
|Sources=<p>John Thorn, FB Posting, 3/1/2022.&nbsp; The announcement of the event appears in the <em>New York Herald</em> on February 8, 1844.</p>
|Sources=<p>John Thorn, FB Posting, 3/1/2022.&nbsp; The announcement of the event appears in the <em>New York Herald</em> on February 8, 1844.</p>
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|Query=<p>Is it time to further define "baseball card"?&nbsp;</p>
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|Source Image=Magnolia Club Invite 1844
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The First Baseball Card, Arguably?

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Tags Antedated Firsts, Ball in the Culture
City/State/Country: New York, NY, United States
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Age of Players Adult
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"What's the first baseball card?  (I say it's the invitation to the Magnolia Club's First Annual Ball ball in February 1844.)"

 

[Image to be added below, once Protoball gets help with this task.  The Magnolia Club card/ticket appears on the right side in the image.] 

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John Thorn, FB Posting, 3/1/2022.  The announcement of the event appears in the New York Herald on February 8, 1844.

Comment

[1] Another candidate as first baseball card is a group photo of the "Mutual (Green Stockings) B.B. Club of New York," evidently printed as on a souvenir ticket to a 1865 benefit for Harry and Sam Wright. 

Voigt writes "To finance the affair, a 25-cent admission charge was asked, and all comers were also encouraged to part with an extra 25 cents for a souvenir ticket . . . . Wright was more interested in his cash cut, which came to $29.65."  David Vincent Voigt, American Baseball (University of Oklahoma Press, 1966), p. 28.

John points out that this event can be mainly viewed as a cricket event. Three games were planned as part of the affair, and two were cricket games.  A base ball game was to follow, but it was rained out.

[2] Gary Passamonte observes: "This debate has raged on for many years.  I believe the 1886 Old Judge N167 set would be the first undisputed group of baseball cards.  All earlier possibilities have detractors with good points." 

[3] For more on the Magnolia Club, see his 2011 article at https://ourgame.mlblogs.com/magnolia-ball-club-predates-knickerbocker-af50771cd24b.  In John's Baseball in the Garden of Eden (Simon and Shuster, 2011), pp 89-95, he describes his 2007 discovery of the club -- and the card.  "[The ticket] cost a dollar , and, given its enamel-coated card stock and its commissioned rather than stock imagery, was likely intended to be saved as a memento of the event.  The baseball scene on the card reveals three bases with stakes (not wickets), eight men in the field, a pitcher with an underarm delivery, possibly base-stealing . . . . This is, from all appearances, the original Knickerbocker game, and that of the New York Base Ball Club. . . . This ticket was the first depiction of men playing baseball in America, and it may be, depending upon one's taxonomic conventions, the first baseball card.  

 

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