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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- Scheduling Hurdles Thwart "Frienly Game" with Westboro Club<br /></em></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- Scheduling Hurdles Thwart "Frienly Game" with Westboro Club<br /></em></span></p>
<p>"We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18<sup>th</sup> to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26<sup>th</sup> of June."</p>
<p><strong>Clip 1:</strong>&nbsp; "We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18<sup>th</sup> to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26<sup>th</sup> of June."</p>
<p>"In reply the Winthrops, June 21<sup>st</sup>, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge."<em>&nbsp;&nbsp;Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4,&nbsp; June 23, 1858.&nbsp; Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.</p>
<p>"In reply the Winthrops, June 21<sup>st</sup>, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge."<em>&nbsp;&nbsp;Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4,&nbsp; June 23, 1858.&nbsp; Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.</p>
<p>&nbsp;"The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>challenge</em></span>&nbsp; the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle&rsquo;s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26<sup>th</sup>. If the Winthrops had been <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">challenged</span>,</em>&nbsp; they would have had the choice of their ground."&nbsp; &nbsp;<em>Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4, June 25, 1858.&nbsp; Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.</p>
<p><strong>Clip 2:</strong> "The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>challenge</em></span>&nbsp; the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle&rsquo;s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26<sup>th</sup>. If the Winthrops had been <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">challenged</span>,</em>&nbsp; they would have had the choice of their ground."&nbsp; &nbsp;<em>Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4, June 25, 1858.&nbsp; Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- "The Cause Was Rum"</em><br /></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>June 1858 -- "The Cause Was Rum"</em><br /></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Cambria','serif'; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">"The game of ball played at Braggville last Saturday afternoon, between the Holliston and Medway boys, was the occasion for a great gathering of all the loafers from the neighboring towns, with a fair sprinkling of very respectable looking men. The fact of the matter was, as we understand, a row and fight. The cause was rum. A large quantity, it is said, was brought on to the ground and disposed of, and even sold at the hotel. We commend that establishment to the attention of the authorities in Holliston."&nbsp; <em>Boston Herald, </em>June 26, 1858,.&nbsp; Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'Cambria','serif'; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">"The game of ball played at Braggville (a former postal village about 4 miles SW of Holliston)last Saturday afternoon, between the Holliston and Medway boys, was the occasion for a great gathering of all the loafers from the neighboring towns, with a fair sprinkling of very respectable looking men. The fact of the matter was, as we understand, a row and fight. The cause was rum. A large quantity, it is said, was brought on to the ground and disposed of, and even sold at the hotel. We commend that establishment to the attention of the authorities in Holliston."&nbsp; <em>Boston Herald, </em>June 26, 1858,.&nbsp; Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Clip 1:</strong> "The Winthrop Ball Club of Holliston, it is rumored, will have a visit on Monday the 5<sup>th</sup> from the Olympic Ball Club of Boston. There will be some playing, but no match game. The Olympians were the competitors of the Winthrops on the Boston Common some three weeks since, and how magnanimously the Olympians received their defeat, and how generously they treated the Winthrops as their guests; will not be forgotten by the members of the Holliston Club. We anticipate that both clubs will have a good time on Monday.</p>
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<p><strong>Clip 2:</strong> "Since the above was in type, we learn that the Olympic does not visit Holliston as a club, but that members come in their individual capacity, and will mingle with the members of the Winthrop as personal friends. There will, probably, be some playing however."&nbsp; <span style="font-family: Cambria;"><em>Boston Herald, </em>July 3, 1858,. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</span></p>
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Nick Name Winthrop
Earliest Known Date June 1858
Location Holliston, MA, United States
Description

The Boston Herald, June 25, 1858, mentions the Eagle BBC of Westboro and the Winthrop BBC of Holliston.

Holliston MA (1860 pop. about 3300) is about 25 miles W of Boston.

Westboro MA (1860 pop. about 2,900) is about 30 miles W of Boston and 12 miles NW of Holliston.

Query: Is there evidence that this club used anything but Massachusetts rules?

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June 1858 -- Scheduling Hurdles Thwart "Frienly Game" with Westboro Club

Clip 1:  "We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18th to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26th of June."

"In reply the Winthrops, June 21st, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge."  Boston Herald, pg. 4,  June 23, 1858.  Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.

Clip 2: "The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not challenge  the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle’s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26th. If the Winthrops had been challenged,  they would have had the choice of their ground."   Boston Herald, pg. 4, June 25, 1858.  Provided by Joanne Hulbert 7/28/2015.

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June 1858 -- "The Cause Was Rum"

"The game of ball played at Braggville (a former postal village about 4 miles SW of Holliston)last Saturday afternoon, between the Holliston and Medway boys, was the occasion for a great gathering of all the loafers from the neighboring towns, with a fair sprinkling of very respectable looking men. The fact of the matter was, as we understand, a row and fight. The cause was rum. A large quantity, it is said, was brought on to the ground and disposed of, and even sold at the hotel. We commend that establishment to the attention of the authorities in Holliston."  Boston Herald, June 26, 1858,.  Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.

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July 1858 -- Winthrop Club Hosts Players On Local Clubs, Including the Olympic Club of Boston

 

Clip 1: "The Winthrop Ball Club of Holliston, it is rumored, will have a visit on Monday the 5th from the Olympic Ball Club of Boston. There will be some playing, but no match game. The Olympians were the competitors of the Winthrops on the Boston Common some three weeks since, and how magnanimously the Olympians received their defeat, and how generously they treated the Winthrops as their guests; will not be forgotten by the members of the Holliston Club. We anticipate that both clubs will have a good time on Monday.

 

Clip 2: "Since the above was in type, we learn that the Olympic does not visit Holliston as a club, but that members come in their individual capacity, and will mingle with the members of the Winthrop as personal friends. There will, probably, be some playing however."  Boston Herald, July 3, 1858,. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.

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Found by Bruce Allardice; Joanne Hulbert
First in Location Holliston, MA
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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know

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Year Games Wins Losses Ties
1858 2 Played 2 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1859 1 Played 0 Won 1 Lost 0 Tied

Ballgames

Page Date City Borough State Team 1 Team 2 Score First in Contributor
Ballgame 1858-05-31 Boston MA Winthrop Club of Holliston Olympic Club of Boston 100 - 27 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-07-24 Holliston MA Winthrop Club of Holliston Massapoag Club of Sharon 101 - 61 Joanne Hulbert, Craig Waff, Paul Johnson
Ballgame 1859-09-26 Medway MA Union Club of Medway Winthrop Club of Holliston 100 - 71 Craig Waff

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Player Years Roles Edit Association with Club
E. C. Bigelow 1858
E. D. Coffee 1858
E. G. Whiting 1858
Edwin Rockwood 1858
Geo. Hoffman 1858
H. H. Safford 1858
J. W. Cutler 1858
Jonathan Puffer 1858
L. E. Rockwood 1858
Moses Allen 1858
P. R. Johnson 1858
Rufus Durfee 1858
T. M. Whiting 1858
W. H. Horton 1858

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