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{{Club
{{Club
|Coordinates=42.2, -71.425
|Entry Origin=Sabrpedia
|Name=Winthrop Club of Holliston
|Name=Winthrop Club of Holliston
|Club Name=Winthrop
|Club Name=Winthrop
|Date=6/1/1858
|Type of Date=Month
|Type of Date=Month
|Date=1858/06/01
|Date of Dissolution Type=Day
|Country=United States
|State=MA
|City=Holliston
|Description=<p>The Boston Herald, June 25, 1858, mentions the Eagle BBC of Westboro and the Winthrop BBC of Holliston.</p>
<p>Westboro MA (1860 pop. about 2,900) is about 30 miles W of Boston.</p>
<p><em><strong>Query</strong></em>: Did this club play chiefly by Massachusetts rules?</p>
|Sources=<p>The <em>Boston Herald</em>, June 25, 1858,</p>
|Comment=<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><br />June 1858 -- Winthrops and Eagles Disagree About Proposed "Friendly Match"</em></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>"We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18<sup>th</sup> to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26<sup>th</sup> of June.</p>
<p>"In reply the Winthrops, June 21<sup>st</sup>, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge."&nbsp; <em>Boston Herald,</em> pg. 4,&nbsp; June 23, 1858.</p>
<p>"The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>challenge</em></span>&nbsp; the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle&rsquo;s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26<sup>th</sup>. If the Winthrops had been <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>challenged,</em></span>&nbsp; they would have had the choice of their ground."<em>Boston Herald</em>, pg. 4, June 25, 1858.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>&nbsp;</em></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>July 1858 -- Winthrop and Olympians Stay at Arms-Length.</em></span></p>
<p>"The Winthrop Ball Club of Holliston, it is rumored, will have a visit on Monday the 5<sup>th</sup> from the Olympic Ball Club of Boston. There will be some playing, but no match game. The Olympians were the competitors of the Winthrops on the Boston Common some three weeks since, and how magnanimously the Olympians received their defeat, and how generously they treated the Winthrops as their guests; will not be forgotten by the members of the Holliston Club. We anticipate that both clubs will have a good time on Monday.</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Since the above was in type, we learn that the Olympic does not visit Holliston as a club, but that members come in their individual capacity, and will mingle with the members of the Winthrop as personal friends. There will, probably, be some playing however."&nbsp; <em>Boston Herald, </em>July 3, 1858.&nbsp; -- Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.&nbsp;</p>
<p>--</p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">July 1858 -- Winthrop Club Hosts Members of several Nearby Clubs<br /></span></em></p>
<p>"Several members of the Olympic Ball Club of Boston visited their friends of the Winthrop Club as anticipated.&nbsp; The ball clubs of Milford, Medway, and other towns in this vicinity were also represented. The day was principally occupied in playing their favorite game, which was conducted in a spirited and friendly manner, and was the occasion of quite a large gathering of our people, who were evidently satisfied that the tact exhibited by the participants in their athletic sports, could only have come through constant and long continued practice."&nbsp; <em>Boston Herald, </em>July 10, 1858 -- Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</p>
<p>--</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>July 1858 -- Winthrops to Host Massapoags.</em></span></p>
<p>"Base Ball.&nbsp; A Match Game.&nbsp; The Winthrop Ball Club of Holliston, have received and accepted a challenge from the Sharon Club to play a match game. It will come off this day commencing at 9 o&rsquo;clock, A.M., at the ball ground of the Winthrop Club, and probably continue into the afternoon. &ldquo;Mine Host&rdquo; Francis of the Winthrop House will get up a good dinner for the occasion."&nbsp; <em>Boston Herald</em>, July 24, 1858. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>--<br /></em></span></p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">July 1858 -- Winthrops 100, Massapoags&nbsp;69</span></em></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>{See games accounts)</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>&nbsp;</em></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>&nbsp;</em></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>&nbsp;</em></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
|Has Source On Hand=No
|Reviewed=Yes
|Submitted by=Bruce Allardice, Joanne Hulbert,
|First in Location=Holliston, MA
|Is No Later Than=Yes
|Is No Later Than=Yes
|First Newspaper Mention=6/1/1858
|First Newspaper Mention=6/1/1858
|First Newspaper Mention Date Type=Month
|First Newspaper Mention Date Type=Month
|City=Holliston
|State=MA
|Country=United States
|Coordinates=42.2, -71.425
|Description=<p>The Boston Herald, June 25, 1858, mentions the Eagle BBC of Westboro and the Winthrop BBC of Holliston.
</p><p>Westboro MA (1860 pop. about 2,900) is about 30 miles W of Boston.
</p><p>Query: Is there evidence that this club used Association rules?
</p>
|Reviewed=Yes
|Submitted by=Bruce Allardice
|Entry Origin=Sabrpedia
|First in Location=Holliston, MA
}}
}}

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Nick Name Winthrop
Earliest Known Date June 1858
Location Holliston, MA, United States
Description

The Boston Herald, June 25, 1858, mentions the Eagle BBC of Westboro and the Winthrop BBC of Holliston.

Westboro MA (1860 pop. about 2,900) is about 30 miles W of Boston.

Query: Did this club play chiefly by Massachusetts rules?

Sources

The Boston Herald, June 25, 1858,

Comment


June 1858 -- Winthrops and Eagles Disagree About Proposed "Friendly Match"

 

"We have received several communications respecting base ball playing, from which it appears that the Eagle club of Westboro, voted June 18th to invite the Winthrop Club of Holliston, to go to Westboro and play a friendly game of Base Ball on the 26th of June.

"In reply the Winthrops, June 21st, stated that it would not be convenient for them to go to Westboro, but invited the Eagles to Holliston to play a game on the same day. This is considered by the Eagles a declinaton of their challenge."  Boston Herald, pg. 4,  June 23, 1858.

"The President of the Eagle Base Ball Club of Westboro, says in reference to a former statement, that the Eagles did not challenge  the Winthrop Club of Holliston, but extended to them an invitation to meet them at Westboro as the guests of the Eagle’s and pass a few hours in the pleasant recreation of a game of base ball on Saturday the 26th. If the Winthrops had been challenged,  they would have had the choice of their ground."Boston Herald, pg. 4, June 25, 1858.

 

July 1858 -- Winthrop and Olympians Stay at Arms-Length.

"The Winthrop Ball Club of Holliston, it is rumored, will have a visit on Monday the 5th from the Olympic Ball Club of Boston. There will be some playing, but no match game. The Olympians were the competitors of the Winthrops on the Boston Common some three weeks since, and how magnanimously the Olympians received their defeat, and how generously they treated the Winthrops as their guests; will not be forgotten by the members of the Holliston Club. We anticipate that both clubs will have a good time on Monday.

            "Since the above was in type, we learn that the Olympic does not visit Holliston as a club, but that members come in their individual capacity, and will mingle with the members of the Winthrop as personal friends. There will, probably, be some playing however."  Boston Herald, July 3, 1858.  -- Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015. 

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July 1858 -- Winthrop Club Hosts Members of several Nearby Clubs

"Several members of the Olympic Ball Club of Boston visited their friends of the Winthrop Club as anticipated.  The ball clubs of Milford, Medway, and other towns in this vicinity were also represented. The day was principally occupied in playing their favorite game, which was conducted in a spirited and friendly manner, and was the occasion of quite a large gathering of our people, who were evidently satisfied that the tact exhibited by the participants in their athletic sports, could only have come through constant and long continued practice."  Boston Herald, July 10, 1858 -- Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.

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July 1858 -- Winthrops to Host Massapoags.

"Base Ball.  A Match Game.  The Winthrop Ball Club of Holliston, have received and accepted a challenge from the Sharon Club to play a match game. It will come off this day commencing at 9 o’clock, A.M., at the ball ground of the Winthrop Club, and probably continue into the afternoon. “Mine Host” Francis of the Winthrop House will get up a good dinner for the occasion."  Boston Herald, July 24, 1858. Provided by Joanne Hulbert, 7/28/2015.

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July 1858 -- Winthrops 100, Massapoags 69

 

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Found by Bruce Allardice, Joanne Hulbert
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Win/Loss Records As Far As We Now Know

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Year Games Wins Losses Ties
1858 2 Played 2 Won 0 Lost 0 Tied
1859 1 Played 0 Won 1 Lost 0 Tied

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Ballgame 1858-05-31 Boston MA Winthrop Club of Holliston Olympic Club of Boston 100 - 27 Craig Waff
Ballgame 1858-07-24 Holliston MA Winthrop Club of Holliston Massapoag Club of Sharon 101 - 61 Joanne Hulbert, Craig Waff, Paul Johnson
Ballgame 1859-09-26 Medway MA Union Club of Medway Winthrop Club of Holliston 100 - 71 Craig Waff

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E. C. Bigelow 1858
E. D. Coffee 1858
E. G. Whiting 1858
Edwin Rockwood 1858
Geo. Hoffman 1858
H. H. Safford 1858
J. W. Cutler 1858
Jonathan Puffer 1858
L. E. Rockwood 1858
Moses Allen 1858
P. R. Johnson 1858
Rufus Durfee 1858
T. M. Whiting 1858
W. H. Horton 1858

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