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{{Chronology Entry | {{Chronology Entry | ||
|Year=1828 | |Year=1828 | ||
|Year Suffix=c | |Year Suffix=c | ||
|Year Number=3 | |||
|Headline=Upstate Author Carried Now-Lost 1828 Clipping on Base Ball in Rochester | |||
|Salience=2 | |Salience=2 | ||
|Tags=Famous, | |||
|Location=Western New York | |Location=Western New York | ||
| | |Country=United States | ||
|Text=<p>"Your article on baseball's origins reminded me of an evening spent in Cooperstown with the author Samuel Hopkins Adams more than 30 years ago. | |State=NY | ||
<p>"Even then we knew that the attribution to Abner Doubleday was a myth. | |City=Rochester | ||
|Game=Base Ball, | |||
<p>Adams' biography also notes the author's doubts about the Doubleday theory: asked in 1955 about his novel < | |Age of Players=Adult | ||
|Text=<p>[A] "Your article on baseball's origins reminded me of an evening spent in Cooperstown with the author Samuel Hopkins Adams more than 30 years ago. Over a drink we discussed briefly the folk tale about the "invention" of baseball in this village in 1839.</p> | |||
<p>"Even then we knew that the attribution to Abner Doubleday was a myth. Sam Adams capped the discussion by pulling from his wallet a clipping culled from a Rochester newspaper dated 1828 that described in some detail the baseball game that had been played that week in Rochester."</p> | |||
<p>[B] Adams' biography also notes the author's doubts about the Doubleday theory: asked in 1955 about his novel <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Grandfather Stories</span>, which places early baseball in Rochester in 1827 [sic], he retorted "'I am perfectly willing to concede that Cooperstown is the home of the ice cream soda, the movies and the atom bomb, and that General Doubleday wrote Shakespeare. But," and he then read a newspaper account of the [1828? 1830?] Rochester game."</p> | |||
<p>[C] "Will Irwin, a baseball historian, tells us he was informed by Samuel Hopkins of a paragraph in an 1830 newspaper which notes that a dance was to be held by the Rochester Baseball Club."</p> | |||
|Sources=<p>[A] Letter from Frederick L. Rath, Jr, to the Editor of the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">New York Times</span>, October 5, 1990.</p> | |||
<p>[B] <em>Oneonta Star</em>, July 9. 1965, citing Samuel V. Kennedy, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Samuel Hopkins Adams and the Business of Writing</span> (Syracuse University Press, 1999), page 284.</p> | |||
<p>[C] Bill Beeny, <em>Rochester Democrat and </em><em>Chronicle</em>, March 17, 1965.</p> | |||
|Comment=<p> Priscilla Astifan has looked hard for such an article, and it resists finding. She suspects the article appeared in a newspaper whose contents were not preserved.</p> | |||
|Submitted by=Priscilla Astifan | |||
|Submission Note=1/14/2008 email | |||
|Reviewed=Yes | |Reviewed=Yes | ||
|Has Supplemental Text=No | |||
|Coordinates=43.16103, -77.6109219 | |||
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| Tags | FamousFamous |
| Location | Western New YorkWestern New York |
| City/State/Country: | Rochester, NY, United States |
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| Age of Players | AdultAdult |
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| Text | [A] "Your article on baseball's origins reminded me of an evening spent in Cooperstown with the author Samuel Hopkins Adams more than 30 years ago. Over a drink we discussed briefly the folk tale about the "invention" of baseball in this village in 1839. "Even then we knew that the attribution to Abner Doubleday was a myth. Sam Adams capped the discussion by pulling from his wallet a clipping culled from a Rochester newspaper dated 1828 that described in some detail the baseball game that had been played that week in Rochester." [B] Adams' biography also notes the author's doubts about the Doubleday theory: asked in 1955 about his novel Grandfather Stories, which places early baseball in Rochester in 1827 [sic], he retorted "'I am perfectly willing to concede that Cooperstown is the home of the ice cream soda, the movies and the atom bomb, and that General Doubleday wrote Shakespeare. But," and he then read a newspaper account of the [1828? 1830?] Rochester game." [C] "Will Irwin, a baseball historian, tells us he was informed by Samuel Hopkins of a paragraph in an 1830 newspaper which notes that a dance was to be held by the Rochester Baseball Club." |
| Sources | [A] Letter from Frederick L. Rath, Jr, to the Editor of the New York Times, October 5, 1990. [B] Oneonta Star, July 9. 1965, citing Samuel V. Kennedy, Samuel Hopkins Adams and the Business of Writing (Syracuse University Press, 1999), page 284. [C] Bill Beeny, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, March 17, 1965. |
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| Comment | Priscilla Astifan has looked hard for such an article, and it resists finding. She suspects the article appeared in a newspaper whose contents were not preserved. Edit with form to add a comment |
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| Submitted by | Priscilla Astifan |
| Submission Note | 1/14/2008 email |
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