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"Old Game of Base" Planned -- New York vs. Brooklyn
Salience | Noteworthy |
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Tags | Pre-Knicks NYC, Throwback GamesPre-Knicks NYC, Throwback Games |
Location | BrooklynBrooklyn |
City/State/Country: | Brooklyn, NY, USA |
Modern Address | |
Game | Game of BaseGame of Base |
Immediacy of Report | Contemporary |
Age of Players | AdultAdult |
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Text | "The Old Game of Base Revived -- There will be a game of Base come off on MONDAY, October 6th, between eight New York players and eight of Brooklyn, on the U.S.C. Club ground. The ame will commence at 11 o'clock, weather permitting; if not, the first fair day. The following are the Brooklyn players: John Hunt, Edward Hardy, John Hyne, William Sharp, Theodore Foman, John Waley, Stephen Swift, Samuel Myers." |
Sources | New-York Atlas, October 5, 1845 |
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Comment | John Thorn, 1/31/2023: "That baseball was regarded as an old game, even in New York City, is attested to by this ad:" Richard Hershberger, 2/1/2023: "Yes, it is striking how many early citations for baseball explicitly refer to it as an old game. This continues well into the New York game era. I take this at face value. Contemporary observers of the rise of baseball to cultural prominence regarded this not as a new game distinct from the old one, but a version of the traditional game. Take this seriously and it changes our understanding of that rise to cultural prominence." John Thorn, email of 2/3/2023: 'This game, scheduled for the 6th, was postponed until played on the 11th; no box score exists. On U.S.C.C. Grounds -- The Union Star Cricket Club Grounds were in Brooklyn."
Note: As of February 2023, the Chronology shows a "Game of Base" played at 1720c.4, {played on a beach in Maine}, at 1828.19, {played at Harvard University}, and at 1845.4 {possibly played by modern rules?}. There is also the 1805 game of 'base' at 1805.4, which David Block sees as, by 60-40 odds, being a form of base ball. Edit with form to add a comment |
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Submitted by | John Thorn |
Submission Note | Email of 1/31/2023 |
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