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|Comment=<p>Richard Hershberger explains (email to Protoball, 12/17/2021): <span> "The elasticity of balls varied wildly in this era. Typically clubs that were better hitters than fielders preferred more elastic, i.e. lively, balls, while clubs that were better fielders preferred less elastic, i.e. dead, balls. This was a frequent source of dispute before games. The problem was eventually solved when the National League adopted an official league ball for all championship games."</span></p> | |Comment=<p>Richard Hershberger explains (email to Protoball, 12/17/2021): <span> "The elasticity of balls varied wildly in this era. Typically clubs that were better hitters than fielders preferred more elastic, i.e. lively, balls, while clubs that were better fielders preferred less elastic, i.e. dead, balls. This was a frequent source of dispute before games. The problem was eventually solved when the National League adopted an official league ball for all championship games."</span></p> | ||
|Query=<p>[] Was the official | <p><span>Corky Gaskell adds, (email of 12.20/2021): <span>George Ellard made the base balls for the Cincinnati club. I am not 100% sure when he started doing that, but if my memory serves me right, he was making them during the 1869 season, and it wasn't uncommon for them to want that less lively ball to help their defense do its thing.</span></span></p> | ||
|Query=<p>[] Was the official NABBP ball relatively elastic or relatively inelastic, compared to the range in available base balls? Were cricket balls, which had very similar dimensions and weights, more or less elastic than period base ball?</p> | |||
<p>[] Prior to the NL, was the convention that the home club furnished the ball?</p> | <p>[] Prior to the NL, was the convention that the home club furnished the ball?</p> | ||
<p>[] Were there many "championship games" in the early NL?</p> | <p>[] Were there many "championship games" in the early NL?</p> | ||
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Teams Hassle Over Choice of Game Ball -- Redstockings Liked Less-elastic Variety
| Salience | Noteworthy |
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| Tags | Equipment, The BallEquipment, The Ball |
| Location | Philadelphia, PAPhiladelphia, PA |
| City/State/Country: | Philadelphia, PA, United States |
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| Game | Base BallBase Ball |
| Immediacy of Report | Contemporary |
| Age of Players | AdultAdult |
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"Over a quarter of an hour’s time was wasted in a dispute as to what ball should be played with, the Athletics insisting that a lively elastic Ross ball should be used, whilst the Cincinnatis claimed that as they were the challenging party, they had the right o furnish the ball, and therefore proposed to use a ball made expressly for them, of a non-elastic nature, by which they hoped to equalize any advantage that the Athletics might possess over them in batting. The dispute was finally decided by the Cincinnatis agreeing to play with the ball furnished by the Athletics, as it always has been the custom for the club on whose ground a match is played to furnish the ball." The game was Cincinnati vs. Athletic 6/21/1869.
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| Sources | Philadelphia Sunday Mercury, June 27, 1869 |
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| Comment | Richard Hershberger explains (email to Protoball, 12/17/2021): "The elasticity of balls varied wildly in this era. Typically clubs that were better hitters than fielders preferred more elastic, i.e. lively, balls, while clubs that were better fielders preferred less elastic, i.e. dead, balls. This was a frequent source of dispute before games. The problem was eventually solved when the National League adopted an official league ball for all championship games." Corky Gaskell adds, (email of 12.20/2021): George Ellard made the base balls for the Cincinnati club. I am not 100% sure when he started doing that, but if my memory serves me right, he was making them during the 1869 season, and it wasn't uncommon for them to want that less lively ball to help their defense do its thing. Edit with form to add a comment |
| Query | [] Was the official NABBP ball relatively elastic or relatively inelastic, compared to the range in available base balls? Were cricket balls, which had very similar dimensions and weights, more or less elastic than period base ball? [] Prior to the NL, was the convention that the home club furnished the ball? [] Were there many "championship games" in the early NL? Edit with form to add a query |
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| Submitted by | Richard Hershberger |
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