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|Year=1859
|Year=1859
|Year Number=2
|Year Number=2
|Headline=Intercollegiate Game [the First Played by NY Rules] Pits Xavier and Fordham
|Headline=Collegiate Game [the First Played by NY Rules?] in NYC
|Salience=1
|Salience=2
|Tags=College,  
|Tags=College,  
|Location=Greater New York City
|Location=Greater New York City
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|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary
|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary
|Age of Players=Youth
|Age of Players=Youth
|Text=<p>Fordham College students played a game against St. Francis Xavier's College on Nov. 3, 1859, using the new Association rules.&nbsp;The teams apparently were not regarded as representing their schools, but were base ball clubs formed from among students, and called the Rose Hill BBC (Fordham) and the Social BBC (St. Xavier's College).</p>
|Text=<p>Students at St. John's College [now Fordham College]&nbsp;played a game against St. Francis Xavier's College on Nov. 3, 1859, using the new Association rules.&nbsp;The teams apparently were not regarded as representing their schools, but were base ball clubs formed from among students, and were called the Rose Hill BBC (Fordham) and the Social BBC (St. Xavier's College).</p>
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|Sources=<p>Per Dean A. Sullivan, Compiler and Editor, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Early Innings: A Documentary History of Baseball, 1825-1908</span> [University of Nebraska Press, 1995], p. 32. Sullivan dates the game November 3, 1859, but does not give a source.</p>
|Sources=<p>Per Dean A. Sullivan, Compiler and Editor, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Early Innings: A Documentary History of Baseball, 1825-1908</span> [University of Nebraska Press, 1995], p. 32. Sullivan dates the game November 3, 1859, but does not give a source.</p>
<p><em>New York Sunday Mercury,&nbsp;</em>Nov. 13, 1859, p. 3, carried the result and a box score.</p>
<p><em>New York Sunday Mercury,&nbsp;</em>Nov. 13, 1859, p. 3, carried the result and a box score showing a 33-11 victory for St. John's.</p>
|Warning=<p>It is not clear whether this qualifies as the first intercollegiate game by modern rules.</p>
|Comment=<p>The St. Francis Xavier's College in this story is presumably College of St. Francis Xavier, a Mahattan institution that closed in 1913.</p>
|Comment=<p>The St. Francis Xavier's College in this story is presumably College of St. Francis Xavier, a Mahattan institution that closed in 1913.</p>
<p>Brian McKenna, on 11/8/2015, reports that St. Francis was a college preparatory high school, and suggests that the St. John's side used high school players&nbsp;too. &nbsp;</p>
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|Submitted by=Brian McKenna
|Submission Note=Supplemental information, received 11/8/2014
|Reviewed=Yes
|Reviewed=Yes
|Has Supplemental Text=No
|Has Supplemental Text=No
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Immediacy of Report Contemporary
Age of Players Youth
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Students at St. John's College [now Fordham College] played a game against St. Francis Xavier's College on Nov. 3, 1859, using the new Association rules. The teams apparently were not regarded as representing their schools, but were base ball clubs formed from among students, and were called the Rose Hill BBC (Fordham) and the Social BBC (St. Xavier's College).

 

Sources

Per Dean A. Sullivan, Compiler and Editor, Early Innings: A Documentary History of Baseball, 1825-1908 [University of Nebraska Press, 1995], p. 32. Sullivan dates the game November 3, 1859, but does not give a source.

New York Sunday Mercury, Nov. 13, 1859, p. 3, carried the result and a box score showing a 33-11 victory for St. John's.

Warning

It is not clear whether this qualifies as the first intercollegiate game by modern rules.

Comment

The St. Francis Xavier's College in this story is presumably College of St. Francis Xavier, a Mahattan institution that closed in 1913.

Brian McKenna, on 11/8/2015, reports that St. Francis was a college preparatory high school, and suggests that the St. John's side used high school players too.  

 

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