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|Year=1749 | |Year=1749 | ||
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|Year Number=2 | |Year Number=2 | ||
|Headline=Aging Prince Spends "Several Hours" Playing Bass-Ball in Surrey | |Headline=Aging Prince Spends "Several Hours" Playing Bass-Ball in Surrey | ||
|Salience= | |Salience=1 | ||
|Tags=Famous, | |Tags=English Base Ball, Famous, Pre-modern Rules, | ||
|Location= | |||
|Country=England | |Country=England | ||
|Coordinates=52.3555177, -1.1743197 | |||
|State= | |||
|City= | |||
|Modern Address= | |||
|Game=Bass Ball | |Game=Bass Ball | ||
|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary | |Immediacy of Report=Contemporary | ||
|Age of Players=Adult | |Age of Players=Adult | ||
|Holiday= | |||
|Notables=Prince of Wales, Lord Middlesex | |Notables=Prince of Wales, Lord Middlesex | ||
|Text=<p>"On Tuesday last, his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, and Lord Middlesex, played at Bass-Ball (sic), at Walton in Surry (sic); notwithstanding the Weather was extreme bad, they continued playing several | |Text=<p>"On Tuesday last, his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, and Lord Middlesex, played at Bass-Ball (sic), at Walton in Surry (sic); notwithstanding the Weather was extreme bad, they continued playing several Hours."</p> | ||
|Sources=<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Whitehall Evening Post</span>, </em>September 19. 1749. David Block's 2013 find was reported at the SABR.org website on 6/19/2103, and it includes interview videos and links to related documentation. Confirmed 6/19/2013 as yielding to a web search of <block royal baseball sabr>.</p> | |Sources=<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Whitehall Evening Post</span>, </em>September 19. 1749. </p> | ||
|Comment=<p>Block points out that this very early reference to base-ball | <p>David Block's 2013 find was reported at the SABR.org website on 6/19/2103, and it includes interview videos and links to related documentation. Confirmed 6/19/2013 as yielding to a web search of <block royal baseball sabr>.</p> | ||
|Warning= | |||
|Comment=<p>Block points out that this very early reference to base-ball indicates that the game was played by adults -- the Prince was 38 years old in 1749, further weakening the view that English base-ball was played mainly by juveniles in its early history.</p> | |||
<p>The location of the game was Walton-on-Thames in Surrey.</p> | <p>The location of the game was Walton-on-Thames in Surrey.</p> | ||
<p> Comparing the 1749 game with modern baseball, Block estimates that the bass-ball was likely played on a smaller scale, with a much softer ball, with batted ball propelled the | <p> Comparing the 1749 game with modern baseball, Block estimates that the bass-ball was likely played on a smaller scale, with a much softer ball, with batted ball propelled the players' hands, not with a bat, and that runners could be put out by being "plugged" (hit with a thrown ball) between bases.</p> | ||
<p> </p> | <p> </p> | ||
|Query=<p>Only two players were named for this account. Was that because the Prince and Lord Middlesex both led clubs not worthy of mentioning, or was there a two-player version of the game then (in the 1800s competitive games of cricket were similarly reported with only two named players)?</p> | |Query=<p>Only two players were named for this account. Was that because the Prince and Lord Middlesex both led clubs not worthy of mentioning by name, or was there a two-player version of the game then (in the 1800s competitive games of cricket were similarly reported with only two named players)?</p> | ||
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|Submitted by=David Block | |Submitted by=David Block | ||
|Submission Note=Email of 5/31/2013 | |Submission Note=Email of 5/31/2013 |
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Salience | Prominent |
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Tags | English Base Ball, Famous, Pre-modern RulesEnglish Base Ball, Famous, Pre-modern Rules |
Location | |
City/State/Country: | England |
Modern Address | |
Game | Bass BallBass Ball |
Immediacy of Report | Contemporary |
Age of Players | AdultAdult |
Holiday | |
Notables | Prince of Wales, Lord Middlesex |
Text | "On Tuesday last, his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, and Lord Middlesex, played at Bass-Ball (sic), at Walton in Surry (sic); notwithstanding the Weather was extreme bad, they continued playing several Hours." |
Sources | Whitehall Evening Post, September 19. 1749. David Block's 2013 find was reported at the SABR.org website on 6/19/2103, and it includes interview videos and links to related documentation. Confirmed 6/19/2013 as yielding to a web search of <block royal baseball sabr>. |
Warning | |
Comment | Block points out that this very early reference to base-ball indicates that the game was played by adults -- the Prince was 38 years old in 1749, further weakening the view that English base-ball was played mainly by juveniles in its early history. The location of the game was Walton-on-Thames in Surrey. Comparing the 1749 game with modern baseball, Block estimates that the bass-ball was likely played on a smaller scale, with a much softer ball, with batted ball propelled the players' hands, not with a bat, and that runners could be put out by being "plugged" (hit with a thrown ball) between bases. Edit with form to add a comment |
Query | Only two players were named for this account. Was that because the Prince and Lord Middlesex both led clubs not worthy of mentioning by name, or was there a two-player version of the game then (in the 1800s competitive games of cricket were similarly reported with only two named players)? Edit with form to add a query |
Source Image | [[Image:|left|thumb]] |
External Number | |
Submitted by | David Block |
Submission Note | Email of 5/31/2013 |
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