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|Country=USA | |||
|State=NY | |||
|City=Brooklyn | |||
|Modern Address=Myrtle and Portland Avenues | |||
|Game=Base Ball | |Game=Base Ball | ||
|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary | |||
|Age of Players=Adult | |Age of Players=Adult | ||
|Text=<p>"The Base Ball match between eight Brooklyn players, and eight players of New York, came off on Friday on the grounds of the Union Star Cricket Club. The Yorkers were singularly unfortunate in scoring but one run in their three innings. Brooklyn scored 22 and of course came off winners."</p> | |Text=<p>[A]"The Base Ball match between eight Brooklyn players, and eight players of New York, came off on Friday on the grounds of the Union Star Cricket Club. The Yorkers were singularly unfortunate in scoring but one run in their three innings. Brooklyn scored 22 and of course came off winners."</p> | ||
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<p>On 11/11/2008, Lee Oxford discovered identical text in a second NY newspaper, which included this detail: "After this game had been decided, a match at single wicket cricket came off between two members of the Union Star Club - Foster and Boyd. Foster scored 11 the first and 1 the second innings. Boyd came off victor by scoring 16 the first innings." | <p>On 11/11/2008, Lee Oxford discovered identical text in a second NY newspaper, which included this detail: "After this game had been decided, a match at single wicket cricket came off between two members of the Union Star Club - Foster and Boyd. Foster scored 11 the first and 1 the second innings. Boyd came off victor by scoring 16 the first innings." </p> | ||
|Sources=<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">New York Morning News</span>, Oct. 13, 1845, p.2.</p> | |Sources=<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">[A] New York Morning News</span>, Oct. 13, 1845, p.2.</p> | ||
<p> | <p>[B]The True Sun (New York City), Monday, October 13, 1845, page 2, column 5.</p> | ||
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> | <p>Earlier cited in Tom Melville, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Tented Field: A History of Cricket in America</span> (Bowling Green State University Press, 1998), page 168, note 38: "Though the matches played between the Brooklyn and New York clubs on 21 and 25 October 1845 are generally recognized as being the earliest games in the "modern" era, they were, in fact, preceded by an even earlier game between those two clubs on October 12." [In fact this game was played on October 11.] Thanks to Tim Johnson [email, 12/29/2008] for triggering our search for the missing game. See #1845.4 and #1845.5 above.</p> | ||
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|Warning=<p>Richard Hershberger adds that one can not be sure that these were the same sides that played on October 21/25, noting that the <em>Morning Post</em> refers here just to New York "players", and not to the New York Club.</p> | |Warning=<p>Richard Hershberger adds that one can not be sure that these were the same sides that played on October 21/25, noting that the <em>Morning Post</em> refers here just to New York "players", and not to the New York Club.</p> | ||
|Comment=<p>See also [[1845.4]] for the October 21/25 games.</p> | |Comment=<p>See also [[1845.4]] for the October 21/25 games.</p> | ||
|Query=<p>What is the evidence that this game was played by the Knickerbocker rules?</p> | |Query=<p>What is the evidence that this game was played by the Knickerbocker rules?</p> | ||
|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger | |||
|Submission Note=via email 11/3/2008 | |||
|Reviewed=Yes | |Reviewed=Yes | ||
|Has Supplemental Text=No | |Has Supplemental Text=No | ||
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Text | [A]"The Base Ball match between eight Brooklyn players, and eight players of New York, came off on Friday on the grounds of the Union Star Cricket Club. The Yorkers were singularly unfortunate in scoring but one run in their three innings. Brooklyn scored 22 and of course came off winners."
On 11/11/2008, Lee Oxford discovered identical text in a second NY newspaper, which included this detail: "After this game had been decided, a match at single wicket cricket came off between two members of the Union Star Club - Foster and Boyd. Foster scored 11 the first and 1 the second innings. Boyd came off victor by scoring 16 the first innings." |
Sources | [A] New York Morning News, Oct. 13, 1845, p.2. [B]The True Sun (New York City), Monday, October 13, 1845, page 2, column 5. Earlier cited in Tom Melville, The Tented Field: A History of Cricket in America (Bowling Green State University Press, 1998), page 168, note 38: "Though the matches played between the Brooklyn and New York clubs on 21 and 25 October 1845 are generally recognized as being the earliest games in the "modern" era, they were, in fact, preceded by an even earlier game between those two clubs on October 12." [In fact this game was played on October 11.] Thanks to Tim Johnson [email, 12/29/2008] for triggering our search for the missing game. See #1845.4 and #1845.5 above.
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Warning | Richard Hershberger adds that one can not be sure that these were the same sides that played on October 21/25, noting that the Morning Post refers here just to New York "players", and not to the New York Club. |
Comment | See also 1845.4 for the October 21/25 games. Edit with form to add a comment |
Query | What is the evidence that this game was played by the Knickerbocker rules? Edit with form to add a query |
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Submitted by | Richard Hershberger |
Submission Note | via email 11/3/2008 |
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