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|Headline=White Stockings Stage "Complimentary Benefit" Game (Exhibition) Game, Beneficiary Unreportedrted
|Headline=Boston, Other Towns Eye "First-Class Professional Nines" Like the Red Stockings
|Salience=2
|Salience=1
|Tags=Baseball Professionalism, Business of Baseball,  
|Tags=Business of Baseball,  
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|Country=United States
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|Coordinates=42.3600825, -71.0588801
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|City=Chicago
|City=Boston, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Troy, St. Louis, New Orleans
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|Game=Base Ball
|Game=Base Ball,
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|Text=<p>"WHITE STOCKING VS PICKED NINE -- The complementary benefit to the White Stockings, at Dexter Park,&nbsp; yesterday afternoon, proved to be a small affair . . . the weather was but slightly above the freezing point . . . . The play was what might have been expected of benumbed fingers.."&nbsp; Chicago lent its first baseman to&nbsp; he picked-nine opposition, leaving its own CF vacant, and squeezed out a 10-9 advantage over the five innings played.</p>
|Text=<p>[Beyond the Cincinnati-Chicago base ball rivalry] "The pecuniary success attendant upon of the Red Stocking Club -- the best managed club in the country --&nbsp; has tempted other cities to try the professional nine experiment.&nbsp; <em>The Boston Journal</em> says that for some time past, gentlemen interested in the game of base ball have been considering the subject of securing for Boston a professional base ball nine who should do honor to the city.&nbsp; It seems to be one of the few notions in which Boston is lacking. The success of the&nbsp; Union Grounds as a pecuniary investment has shown that the thing is perfectly safe and feasible. . . .&nbsp; It is proposed to petition the next Legislature for a special charter as a base-ball club, with a capital stock of not less than $10,000, in shares of $100 each."&nbsp; &nbsp;</p>
|Sources=<p><em>Chicago Tribune,&nbsp;</em>November 17, 1870.</p>
<p>"Indianapolis is raising a first-class professional nine under competent management.&nbsp; Cleveland will again have a professional nine;: Troy, ditto, and an opposition tot he Athletics is organizing in Philadelphia.&nbsp; St. Louis, too is in the market, and also New Orleans.&nbsp;</p>
|Sources=<p><em>Brooklyn Eagle</em>, November 17, 1870.</p>
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|Comment=<p>Richard&nbsp;<em>"The Bard"&nbsp;</em>Hershberger explained, 11/16/2020:</p>
|Comment=<p>Richard Hershberger, "150 years ago in baseball" [FB posting, 11/17/2020:</p>
<p><span>"150 years ago today in baseball: a "complimentary benefit" game between the White Stockings and a picked nine. The idea behind a benefit game was that the gate receipts went to whoever the game was being held for. It might be an individual player, the players collectively, or some worthy cause. We saw a benefit earlier this year for the family of William Piccot, the late baseball reporter for the New York Tribune.</span><br /><br /><span>"Back in the more purely amateur era, a benefit game was a socially acceptable way to direct some money to a player without sullying his pristine amateur status. The point of today's game is less clear, the beneficiaries being untainted by so much as a hint of amateurism. It most likely is best understood as a good-will bonus. Today's effort also shows the flaw with the system. The value of the benefit depends in large part on the weather. This especially is a problem in mid-November."</span></p>
<p>"Rumors about new professional clubs for next season. Here we see an intermediate stage, combining the assumption that the Cincinnati Club will keep on doing what it does, along with early rumors of a new club on Boston. The Union Grounds mentioned here is not the one in Cincinnati or the one in Brooklyn, but the one in Boston, so named because it originated as a joint project of several local clubs. Its pecuniary success is in part due to the visits of the Cincinnati Club. The Boston baseball establishment has been paying attention. More developments will soon arise.</p>
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<p><br /><span>"As for the other predictions, they are a mixed bag. Cleveland and Troy will indeed have professional clubs next season, but the other proposals won't pan out, or at least not right away."</span></p>
|Query=<p>Are the typical sums provided to beneficiaries reported?</p>
|Query=<p>Do we know more about the fate of the Union Grounds and Boston sports?</p>
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|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger
|Submitted by=Richard Hershberger
|Submission Note="150 Years Ago" FB Posting, 11/16/2020
|Submission Note=FB Posting, 11/17/2020
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[Beyond the Cincinnati-Chicago base ball rivalry] "The pecuniary success attendant upon of the Red Stocking Club -- the best managed club in the country --  has tempted other cities to try the professional nine experiment.  The Boston Journal says that for some time past, gentlemen interested in the game of base ball have been considering the subject of securing for Boston a professional base ball nine who should do honor to the city.  It seems to be one of the few notions in which Boston is lacking. The success of the  Union Grounds as a pecuniary investment has shown that the thing is perfectly safe and feasible. . . .  It is proposed to petition the next Legislature for a special charter as a base-ball club, with a capital stock of not less than $10,000, in shares of $100 each."   

"Indianapolis is raising a first-class professional nine under competent management.  Cleveland will again have a professional nine;: Troy, ditto, and an opposition tot he Athletics is organizing in Philadelphia.  St. Louis, too is in the market, and also New Orleans. 

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Brooklyn Eagle, November 17, 1870.

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Richard Hershberger, "150 years ago in baseball" [FB posting, 11/17/2020:

"Rumors about new professional clubs for next season. Here we see an intermediate stage, combining the assumption that the Cincinnati Club will keep on doing what it does, along with early rumors of a new club on Boston. The Union Grounds mentioned here is not the one in Cincinnati or the one in Brooklyn, but the one in Boston, so named because it originated as a joint project of several local clubs. Its pecuniary success is in part due to the visits of the Cincinnati Club. The Boston baseball establishment has been paying attention. More developments will soon arise.


"As for the other predictions, they are a mixed bag. Cleveland and Troy will indeed have professional clubs next season, but the other proposals won't pan out, or at least not right away."

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