Clipping:Scoring an error on base on balls, no assistance on a strike out
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| Date | Thursday, December 14, 1882 |
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| Text | [reporting on the AA convention] Two important changes were made in the scoring rules, one being the charging of an error to the pitcher for every runner given his base on called balls, and the other the taking out of the assistance column in the score the pitcher's assistance on strikes, the latter now having to be recorded in the summary. No assistance, either, is to be credited to the pitcher on players being put out on foul balls. Cincinnati Enquirer December 14, 1882 deliberating peace with the NL [reporting on the AA convention] ...there was an animated discussion over the motion to appoint a Committee of Conference to meet with the League Committee, the delegates of the Cincinnati, St. Louis, Columbus and Athletic Clubs being dead against it, while those of Pittsburg, Baltimore, New York and Louisville favored the appointment of the committee. By this course the Association avenged the violation of the contracts by League clubs, but at a heavy pecuniary cost to both organizations. Cincinnati Enquirer December 14, 1882 On motion of Mr. Pank, of Louisville, the matter of the appointment of the conference committee was brought up again in the form of a reconsideration of yesterday's vote on the subject. In presenting the motion President McKnight remarked that after due reflection on this matter of conference he had come to the conclusion that it involved a question of very serious import, affecting the future welfare of the organization; and he did not think the convention yesterday had duly considered the importance of it. “One bearing,” he stated, “which would result from a neglect of combined action with the league in the matter of observing the contracts and black-lists of each others association, would be to open the door to the evil or revolving and to introduce a phase of crooked work in the association which could not but be damaging to all the clubs of both associations. For his part, although his club has suffered as bad as any from violated contracts he was willing to let that pass, rather than to bring about a worse complication of troubles by refusing to second the movement made by the league in favor of some compromise. Mr. Simmons, of the Athletics, seconded these remarks by withdrawing his vote of opposition to the appointment of the committee, and finally when the matter came to a vote only two clubs were found opposed to the compromise measure, and those were Cincinnati and St. Louis, and afterward when the matter was finally explained the Cincinnati delegate had his vote changed so that Mr. Von der Ahe was left out in the cold on the question, the vote for the appointment of the Committee on Question being seven to one in its favor. The President then appointed Messrs. Pank, Simmons and Barnie as a Conference Committee, and the Secretary was requested to notify the President of the League of the action taken by the convention, and that the American Co0mmittee was ready to confer with the League Committee on the subject of a compromise of the existing difficulties between the two organizations. Cincinnati Enquirer December 15, 1882 Louis Kramer, President of the Cincinnati Club, was asked this afternoon by a correspondent of the Commercial what was the feeling among the delegates in regard to the allege peace overtures from the National League. “There have been no official overtures of peace from the League,” Mr. Kramer replied. “ A few men who have been hanging about the corridors of the hotel since we came here, and who represent themselves to be members of the League, have been urging us to appoint a conference committee to consult with one from the league. That is all we have heard of the matter except what has appeared in the newspapers. The general feeling among the delegates present is that the American Association should not encourage any overtures from the League, unless that body agrees to make some fair and equitable concessions beforehand. Our members feel that the League should at least restore some of the men whom they have stolen from us. We don’t think it is just the correct thing for the League, after persuaded several of our good players to break their contracts with us, to come up smilingly and say, ‘Now that we have gained everything we wanted, let’s appoint conference committees and smooth it all over..’ All our delegates expressed a desire on the part of their clubs, to make no move in the matter till the proper concessions are made by the League. We do not wish all the players returned whom they stole from us. All we desire is the return of one man to each club that was injured, namely the St. Louis, Cincinnati and Pittsburg Clubs. Our delegates say they intend to be treated with some respect and some dignity, and that they will, therefore, do nothing about it until some official communication is received from the League. We do not court an alliance with the League, but we would not discourage any just offer of concession and amicable agreement with that organization. Cincinnati Commercial December 14, 1882 The President of the Association announced that official information had been received from the National League that a conference committee had been appointed by that body. The motion to appoint a conference committee of three from the Association was reconsidered and adopted. J. H. Pank, of Louisville, Lewis Simmons, of Philadelphia, and W. Barnie, of Baltimore, were appointed as the committee. Cincinnati Commercial December 15, 1882 He [A. G. Mills] was not inclined to take, or rather that the League should take the initiative in conferring with the American Asso’, but if it was the voice of the meeting he would not object. Messrs. Mills, Soden, & Day were appointed the committee. You will notice by the reports of the American Asso’ meeting in New York the last two days that they rather turned their back on the League. They faced about and appointed a committee yesterday, but I don’t consider it a suitable committee to meet the League. Their President should have been on the committee in place of Barney. They voted not to play games the coming season with League clubs. They could not very well have done otherwise. I don’t mind the non-intercourse if there can be some agreement in regard to recognizing contracts, suspensions and expulsions. I think both League and Amer’ know the importance of being able to fully control the unruly element in their teams. [from a letter by Harry Wright writing from Providence to Frederick Long dated December 15, 1882] |
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| Submitted by | Richard Hershberger |
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