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{{Chronology Entry
|Headline=The First Vintage Game?
|Year=1857
|Year=1857
|Year Number=12
|Headline=The First Vintage Games?
|Salience=2
|Salience=2
|Text=<p>John Thorn writes on 2/24/2006 that <i>Porter's Spirit of the Times</i> for November 14, 1857 [page 165] includes an account of "the first regular match" of the 'Knickerbocker Antiquarian Base Ball Club (who play the old style of the game)'"</p>
|Tags=Pre-modern Rules,
|Location=New Jersey,
|Country=United States
|State=NJ
|City=Newark
|Game=Base Ball,
|Immediacy of Report=Contemporary
|Age of Players=Adult
|Text=<p>[A] "the first regular match" of the 'Knickerbocker Antiquarian Base Ball Club (who play the old style of the game)'" was played in Nov. 1857.&nbsp;</p>
<p>[B] In October, 1857, the Liberty Club of New Brunswick, NJ, played a group of "Old Fogies" who played "the old-fashioned base ball, which, as nearly everyone knows, is entirely different from base ball as now played."</p>
|Sources=<p>[A]<em> Porter's Spirit of the Times,&nbsp;</em>Nov. 14, 1857, p.165.</p>
<p>[B]&nbsp;<em>New York Clipper</em>, Oct. 10, 1857</p>
|Comment=<p>[A] Rules played are unknown. The score was 86-69, and three players are listed in the box score as "not out". 11 on each side.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
|Submitted by=John Thorn
|Submission Note=2/24/2006. Comment by Robert Tholkes10/26/2013
|Reviewed=Yes
|Has Supplemental Text=No
|Coordinates=40.735657, -74.1723667
}}
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The First Vintage Games?

Salience Noteworthy
Tags Pre-modern Rules
Location New Jersey
City/State/Country: Newark, NJ, United States
Game Base Ball
Immediacy of Report Contemporary
Age of Players Adult
Text

[A] "the first regular match" of the 'Knickerbocker Antiquarian Base Ball Club (who play the old style of the game)'" was played in Nov. 1857. 

[B] In October, 1857, the Liberty Club of New Brunswick, NJ, played a group of "Old Fogies" who played "the old-fashioned base ball, which, as nearly everyone knows, is entirely different from base ball as now played."

Sources

[A] Porter's Spirit of the Times, Nov. 14, 1857, p.165.

[B] New York Clipper, Oct. 10, 1857

Comment

[A] Rules played are unknown. The score was 86-69, and three players are listed in the box score as "not out". 11 on each side.

 

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Submission Note 2/24/2006. Comment by Robert Tholkes10/26/2013



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